Can creature immune to poison, suffer form the nauseated effect?

[Sunglar]

Quick rules question…

Can creature immune to poison, suffer form the nauseated effect?

Thanks!

 

[dvvega]

Of course they can. Nauseated does not mean they are poisoned, just nauseated. The condition doesn't state they have to be poisoned to become nauseated.

Just think of seeing a decomposing body with its smell. You can be nauseated from that without every ingesting or being injected with poison.

 

[shilsen]

What dvvega said. There's no necessary connection between the two.

 

[Sunglar]

That was my original idea, but wanted an outside opinion to get the argument settled (don’t worry it’s not in game, just two buddies talking, and you made my argument for me thanks!)

Ok follow up, my losing friend here besides me asks, is there any way to become immune to the nauseated condition?

 

[dvvega]

A wish spell?

Um a contingency that removes the condition (if there is a spell that does it).

You could make a magic item that counters nausea.

In a Fantasy World you can do anything to counter act it but it's DM dependent.

Of course you could go through every single situation that makes you nauseous in the game and make yourself immune to it all.

But off the top of my head I do not know of a way. In my campaign there is the ability to transfer a condition to a familiar (specific prestige class) but that's about it.

 

[Caliban]

That was my original idea, but wanted an outside opinion to get the argument settled (don’t worry it’s not in game, just two buddies talking, and you made my argument for me thanks!)

Ok follow up, my losing friend here besides me asks, is there any way to become immune to the nauseated condition?

Become and undead or construct.

 

[Sunglar]

dvvega, shilsen, Caliban, thank you all for you replies… I’ll be thinking of all of you next Social Friday at happy hour. I told my friend; don’t bet against the DM, even when away form the table, but he never listens.

His character may end up undead anyway… But I digress. Thank you all have a great Sunday.

 

[Hypersmurf]

Become and undead or construct.

Only if the effect grants a Fort save.

• Immunity to all mind-affecting effects (charms, compulsions, phantasms, patterns, and morale effects).
  
• Immunity to poison, sleep effects, paralysis, stunning, disease, and death effects.
  
• Not subject to critical hits, nonlethal damage, ability drain, or energy drain. Immune to damage to its physical ability scores (Strength, Dexterity, and Constitution), as well as to fatigue and exhaustion effects.
  
• Immunity to any effect that requires a Fortitude save (unless the effect also works on objects or is harmless).

If the Nauseated condition is caused by something they're immune to or not subject to, no problem.

But if it's a spell that simply says "You're nauseated, no save", that isn't a poison, disease, or mind-affecting effect... they're not immune.

-Hyp.

 

[Caliban]

Only if the effect grants a Fort save.

• Immunity to all mind-affecting effects (charms, compulsions, phantasms, patterns, and morale effects).
• Immunity to poison, sleep effects, paralysis, stunning, disease, and death effects.
• Not subject to critical hits, nonlethal damage, ability drain, or energy drain. Immune to damage to its physical ability scores (Strength, Dexterity, and Constitution), as well as to fatigue and exhaustion effects.
• Immunity to any effect that requires a Fortitude save (unless the effect also works on objects or is harmless).

If the Nauseated condition is caused by something they're immune to or not subject to, no problem.

But if it's a spell that simply says "You're nauseated, no save", that isn't a poison, disease, or mind-affecting effect... they're not immune.

-Hyp.

Seriously though, being nauseated would seem to require a living metabolism. You can ignore common sense if you want.

 

[Lord Pendragon]

Serioiusly though, being nauseated would seem to require a living metabolism. You can ignore common sense if you want.

Sometimes the rules forum is all about ignoring common sense. I'd think a Rules Monkey would know that.