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<blockquote data-quote="mrpopstar" data-source="post: 7199421" data-attributes="member: 25352"><p>The rules are clear as to when and where advantage or disadvantage apply, as well as how the DM is expected to handle ability checks.</p><p></p><p>DM empowerment is good.</p><p>Rules that are written in such a way as to invite the DM's judgement are also good.</p><p></p><p>Empowerment and judgement are not emphasized in this instance, where the rules are clear.</p><p></p><p>I'm not understanding how simplicity and/or flexibility provide a foundation for your misunderstanding.</p><p></p><p>We are in disagreement that how well an object is hidden is a circumstance that influences a roll in one direction or the other.</p><p></p><p>Advantage or disadvantage reflect the positive or negative circumstances surrounding a d20 roll. How well an object was hidden is not a circumstance that impacts an ability check.</p><p></p><p>--</p><p></p><p>I've expressed myself in this thread, and presented the rules as both written and intended. You are--of course--free to do as you see fit at your own table.</p><p></p><p><img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mrpopstar, post: 7199421, member: 25352"] The rules are clear as to when and where advantage or disadvantage apply, as well as how the DM is expected to handle ability checks. DM empowerment is good. Rules that are written in such a way as to invite the DM's judgement are also good. Empowerment and judgement are not emphasized in this instance, where the rules are clear. I'm not understanding how simplicity and/or flexibility provide a foundation for your misunderstanding. We are in disagreement that how well an object is hidden is a circumstance that influences a roll in one direction or the other. Advantage or disadvantage reflect the positive or negative circumstances surrounding a d20 roll. How well an object was hidden is not a circumstance that impacts an ability check. -- I've expressed myself in this thread, and presented the rules as both written and intended. You are--of course--free to do as you see fit at your own table. :) [/QUOTE]
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