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<blockquote data-quote="DrSpunj" data-source="post: 218475" data-attributes="member: 994"><p><strong>Okay...</strong></p><p></p><p>Good. Thanks for all the replies. This is pretty much what we came up with but I'm glad to see we didn't miss something obvious or a pertinent Sage advice or ruling.</p><p></p><p>I was hoping for something straightforward like this. I probably would've changed it if we had to compare the size of the creature to the size of the door and make some judgement call about how much "free space" there was in each instance to determine Line of Effect.</p><p></p><p>On a related note, Belares brings up a side question. Line of Sight and Line of Effect are often the same, but the PHB specifically states you can cast into a specified number of feet away from you (say 40') into a darkened or fog-shrouded room or area (where you may have line of effect, but unless you can see into the dark/fog not line of sight). If there was a gelatinous cube (since that's everyone's favorite block creature) at 35', would you rule that the spell failed (since line of effect was blocked 5' before its intended target) or the spell takes effect centered on the gelatinous cube. Fireball has specific text to designate that it detonates early, but the general Aiming a Spell rules sound more like other spells would simply fail.</p><p></p><p>Do you agree that this is what the rules state?</p><p></p><p>If so, do you agree with them? would you house rule it differently?</p><p></p><p>Thanks again,</p><p>DrSpunj</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DrSpunj, post: 218475, member: 994"] [b]Okay...[/b] Good. Thanks for all the replies. This is pretty much what we came up with but I'm glad to see we didn't miss something obvious or a pertinent Sage advice or ruling. I was hoping for something straightforward like this. I probably would've changed it if we had to compare the size of the creature to the size of the door and make some judgement call about how much "free space" there was in each instance to determine Line of Effect. On a related note, Belares brings up a side question. Line of Sight and Line of Effect are often the same, but the PHB specifically states you can cast into a specified number of feet away from you (say 40') into a darkened or fog-shrouded room or area (where you may have line of effect, but unless you can see into the dark/fog not line of sight). If there was a gelatinous cube (since that's everyone's favorite block creature) at 35', would you rule that the spell failed (since line of effect was blocked 5' before its intended target) or the spell takes effect centered on the gelatinous cube. Fireball has specific text to designate that it detonates early, but the general Aiming a Spell rules sound more like other spells would simply fail. Do you agree that this is what the rules state? If so, do you agree with them? would you house rule it differently? Thanks again, DrSpunj [/QUOTE]
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