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Catapults and Science in Ancient World

willpax

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This article from the New York Times is somewhat interesting:

How Catapults Married Sciences With Politics

By JOHN NOBLE WILFORD
Published: February 24, 2004

In wars of antiquity, no weapon struck greater terror than the catapult. It was the heavy artillery of that day, the sturdy springboard that shot menacing payloads over fortress walls and into enemy camps — flaming missiles, diseased corpses, lethal arrows and stony projectiles.

For centuries on end, at least until the proliferation of gunpowder in the 15th-century West, catapults saw action as the early weapons of mass destruction. They were prized assets in an arms race and had profound effects on affairs of state. Sound familiar?

Perhaps that is why a small but growing number of historians and classics scholars are taking a closer look at the role of catapults not only in warfare, but also the politics of antiquity. Out of their careful re-reading of old texts, combined with archaeological finds, has emerged a revised view of the convergence of science and political power in earlier times.

More than had been generally recognized, scholars are finding, such weapons drew on advances of science, elevated the influence and prestige of technologists and engendered ambivalent feelings of strength through might, as well a greater vulnerability — even a diminished humanity — than in past hand-to-hand combat with traditional swords and spears.

The changing interpretation was forcefully expressed in a recent essay by Dr. Serafina Cuomo, a British historian of science. She challenged a stereotype that in antiquity "theory and practice were on opposite sides of an unbridgeable divide and that science and technology were marginal in ancient society."

A study of catapults, Dr. Cuomo, of the Imperial College London, wrote in the Feb. 6 issue of the journal Science, "shows that such a divide did not exist in reality" and that "both engineers and their achievements were an important part of ancient society."

Dr. Cuomo cited several telling examples from Greek and Roman history in which rulers employed scientists for their knowledge of geometry, physics and engineering skills in developing more powerful and reliable catapults. Dionysius, a king of Syracuse in the fourth century B.C., gathered craftsmen "from everywhere into one place," as Diodorus wrote, and rewarded them with high wages, gifts, prizes and, for the best and brightest, places at his table.

Dr. Cuomo called it "an inspiring example of policy-driven research."

Later in the same century, catapult designers working for Philip II of Macedon, father of Alexander the Great, raised the stakes in the arms race by improving the weapon with twisted sinews and ropes that acted as powerful springs. By 200 B.C., Philo of Byzantium was writing that catapult research had moved beyond trial-and-error methods to the recognition of a principle based on mathematics.

The principle, as Dr. Cuomo pointed out, was that "all parts of a catapult, including the weight or length of the projectile, were proportional to the size of the torsion springs." Mathematicians were then able to draw up precise tables of specifications for easy reference by builders, and also soldiers on the firing line.

The engineer Philo, the earliest direct source on this period of catapult design, reported that the improved weapons were something that ambitious rulers in the Mediterranean region "display the greatest enthusiasm over and would exchange anything for." Scientists and engineers, he said, were paid handsomely to match wits in the catapult competition.

A later king of Syracuse, it is said, persuaded the legendary Archimedes to design advanced catapults for defense against the Romans. In time, the Romans themselves had catapults capable of delivering 60-pound boulders at least 500 feet. A historian in that time described a Roman legion with 160 catapults, some for shooting incendiary missiles and others for rounded stones, lined up in battle alongside archers and slingers.

One aspect of this ancient weaponry that caught Dr. Cuomo's attention was something Hero of Alexander wrote in the first century A.D., which has the ring of the cold war policy of mutual deterrence.

"You didn't just have to have catapults to use them," the historian said in an interview. "You needed your potential enemy to know that you had catapults so they would not attack you in the first place."

Other scholars praised the essay, especially its insights into the close relationship of science and technology in ancient political affairs.

"She's right on target," Adrienne Mayor, an independent scholar in Princeton, said of Dr. Cuomo's thesis. "A lot of people still think of ancient science as something carried out in ivory towers. But war and science are intertwined from the beginning — something military historians have not ignored, but others have."

Ms. Mayor is a classical folklorist whose latest book, "Greek Fire, Poison Arrows & Scorpion Bombs" (Overlook Duckworth, 2003), describes biochemical warfare in antiquity, including many instances of catapults that rained fire and pestilence in battle.

Dr. Alex Roland, a historian of technology at Duke University, agreed that at least as early as the fourth century B.C. rulers "kept mathematicians" and set up "what were essentially research and development laboratories," primarily to support military technology. One difference from today, he said, was a conspicuous lack of secrecy in these matters.

"Rulers seemed to promote the technology for immediate payoff for themselves and had not yet worked through the notion that you ought to protect your investment with secrecy and restrictions," Dr. Roland said. "So engineers shopped their wares around, and the information circulated freely among countries."

In fact, Dr. Cuomo said, the ancient engineers "saw themselves as an international community," and Philo mentioned with pride his exchanges with colleagues in cities throughout the Mediterranean basin.

A few other scholars have been studying and writing along similar lines, Dr. Roland noted, citing Dr. John G. Landels, a British historian whose book, "Engineering in the Ancient World," was reissued in 2000 by the University of California Press.

Dr. Cuomo pointed out in an interview that "what historians are doing at a more insider level has not really entered the general public level yet."

Dr. Josiah Ober, a professor of classics at Princeton, said that in the fourth and third centuries B.C. the new technology began stimulating changes in the architecture of defensive fortifications, providing, for example, openings in towers wide enough for catapult-launched projectiles to pass through from the inside. That, too, became the task of engineers who, he said, worked for "very centralized monarchies pushing military technology."

Dr. Ober suggested that scholars had been slow to recognize the importance of technology in antiquity's hierarchies of power because classical philosophers like Plato and Aristotle were known for the aristocratic view, he said, that "productive labor was destructive to your capacity to truly live the highest form of life."

The Greeks, who knew their Homer and his celebration of the courage of single-warrior combat, seemed to have deep qualms about the new projectile weapons, as Dr. Cuomo noted in a story of a king of Sparta in the fourth century B.C.

"On seeing the missile shot by a catapult which had been brought then for the first time from Sicily," Plutarch wrote, the king "cried out, `By Heracles, this is the end of man's valor.' "

Archaeological evidence indicates that catapults may be as old as ninth-century B.C. Nimrud in what is now Iraq. Some of the first crude instruments had large bows drawn back with winches for firing. They evolved into heavier timber frames with pulleys and iron levers by which hair or sinew cords were wound tightly as torsion springs for greater power and range.

So awesome was catapult technology that by the first century A.D. the Roman engineer Sextus Julius Frontinus allowed pride to blind him to human nature and ingenuity. The invention of these machines of war, Frontinus wrote, "has long ago been completed, and I don't see anything surpassing the state of the art."
 

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alsih2o

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http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/02/0205_040205_catapults.html

Ancient catapults were state-of-the-art weapons of unequalled power—but how powerful were the military engineers who created them?
"Both the engineers and their achievements were an important part of ancient society," writes Serafina Cuomo, of Imperial College London's Centre for the History of Science. "In antiquity," she added, "catapults not only changed the art of war, but also inaugurated a new era in the relations between political power and technical experts."

Cuomo's recent interpretation, entitled The Sinews of War: Ancient Catapults, is published in the February 6 issue of the journal Science.

Science on the Ancient Battlefield

The making of catapults, known as "belopoietics" (poietike meaning "making of"; belos meaning "projectile or projectile-throwing device") required an ingenious combination of geometry, physics, and technology.

The fearsome machines terrorized battlefields and sieges until the proliferation of gunpowder. Their power was impressive and terrifying. Roman catapults could hurl 60-pound (27-kilogram) boulders some 500 feet (150 meters). Archimedes' machines were said to have been able to throw stones three times as heavy.

The origins of the catapult are unknown. They appear in the historical record as early as a 9th-century B.C. relief from Nimrud in modern-day Iraq.

Early Greek catapults were large bows that included winches able to draw the weapon for firing.

At some point, possibly under Phillip II of Macedonia (382-336 B.C.), father of Alexander the Great, bow arms were replaced by tight bundles of sinew or rope which functioned as "springs."

By the 4th century B.C. catapults were quickly becoming popular throughout the Mediterranean. That technological creep may have stemmed from events like those depicted in a popular ancient story of Dionysius—ruler of the Sicilian city of Syracuse.

In 399 B.C., according to the account of Diodorus of Sicily, Dionysius gathered craftsmen from all the cities in his domain. Motivating them with high wages, gifts, and personal praise, he spurred them to construct great numbers and types of weapons. Cuomo describes the strategy as "an inspiring example of policy-driven research."

But was that gathering of top technical minds really responsible for increasing and dispersing knowledge of catapult-building?

Jonathan Roth, an ancient military historian at San Jose State University, finds the idea interesting.

"The catapult is one of the few cases where we think we know something about how ancient technology developed," he said. "It depends what you think of the story of Dionysius and Syracuse.

"The story is interesting and a rare example from antiquity, but we don't really know very much about it. It does seem that torsion artillery, like the catapult, developed at some point and then spread very rapidly. So that kind of story makes some sense in light of what happened. But we just don't know much about these events or people—not even about Archimedes."

Archimedes, the legendary mathematician and philosopher, is regarded as one of the ancient world's most prominent military engineers. He's credited with staving off the Roman siege of Syracuse through his ingenious construction and employment of war machinery.

"Archimedes is somebody who might have been very much like the people that Dionysius is said to have brought together," Roth said. "But even though we know much more about him than about almost anyone else whom you might call a type of ancient 'military engineer,' we know virtually nothing about Archimedes. What was his relationship to the state? How did that work? It's very hard to say."

Roth also maintains that much can still be learned on the subject from the types of historical sources examined by Cuomo.

"I do think that there is a tendency to be too critical of the sources and say that ancient people didn't have the concept of thinking about techniques of war in a sophisticated way," he said. "But it does make some sense that the people involved in warfare, which was very significant in the ancient world, knew what their technical problems were and actively looked for solutions to them."

Standards and Subsidies

Cuomo believes that those problems were increasingly addressed by the application of organized scientific knowledge.

Through long experience the ancients identified a basic principle of catapult construction. It stated that all parts of the machine, including the stone or projectile, were proportional to the size of the torsion springs. The establishment of this principle had a dramatic effect.

"Whereas in the old days of trial-and-error, results could never be guaranteed, the introduction of proportionality and thus mathematics allowed catapult construction to be almost standardized," Cuomo writes in Science. "Tables of specification were compiled for quick and easy reference."

Philo of Byzantium (ca. 200 B.C.), in his Belopoietics, promoted using such knowledge for machines that fired long-distance shots, describing such range as something "which they display the greatest enthusiasm over and would exchange anything for." The "they" in Philo's reference is unclear, but Cuomo suggests that it may have been the powerful political figures of the day. Philo goes on to say that technicians in Alexandria were heavily subsidized by ambitious kings who fostered craftsmanship.

Cuomo believes that other governments were not only interested in belopoietics, but financially supportive of the science. "By the end of the 4th century B.C., any state with political aspirations needed a semiprofessional army, any army required machines, and any city had to have a fortified wall," Cuomo writes.

"The rise of advanced catapults, better fortifications, and manuals on artillery and tactics was accompanied by a rise in the visibility and status of engineers, who also worked as architects and surveyors," she says.

In fact, as early as the first century A.D. technology had evolved so far that at least some felt little further improvement was possible. Cuomo cites the Roman Sextus Julius Frontinus' belief that "The invention of [machines of war] has long ago been completed and I don't seen anything surpassing the state of the art."

Technology, of course, has since evolved by leaps and bounds.

"The technologies [the engineers] boasted of may now be obsolete, but their anxieties, their curiosity, and their pride in their knowledge are not—perhaps the people behind the machine have not changed that much," says Cuomo.
 



WayneLigon

Adventurer
smetzger said:
The trebuchet was/is much more accurate, had longer range, and could hurl bigger rocks.
NOVA had a great show last year on a researcher trying to replicate how a trebuchet was built and was supposed to work, and if it actually matched the claims made as to power and accuracy. After a great deal of trial and error, and a couple lucky realizations as to what kept the thing from simply falling over when it fired, they got it working. It was extremely impressive. Also; look at the seige of Gondor in RoTK; those huge things in the city tossing massive stones are trebuchets on a grand scale, and they match almost exactly what's seen in the reproduction videos. More great research by WETA :)
 

smetzger

Explorer
CCamfield said:
True, but the trebuchet wasn't invented until later.

Yup. I am taking issue with this statement "In wars of antiquity, no weapon struck greater terror than the catapult. It was the heavy artillery of that day, the sturdy springboard that shot menacing payloads over fortress walls and into enemy camps — flaming missiles, diseased corpses, lethal arrows and stony projectiles.

For centuries on end, at least until the proliferation of gunpowder in the 15th-century West, catapults saw action as the early weapons of mass destruction."

I would say that the reign of catapults was over once the trebuchet was invented _not_ with the proliferation of gunpowder. The trebuchet not gunpowder signalled the obsolecense of the catapult.
 

Wombat

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This reminds me of a lecture I heard regarding early Roman military history.

The professor described war elephants as the nuclear bombs of the ancient world -- all armies wanted to have them, but everyone was nervous about actually using them (due to their nasty habit of bolting over friendly troops in combat if things go wrong).
 

JEL

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smetzger said:
Yup. I am taking issue with this statement "In wars of antiquity, no weapon struck greater terror than the catapult. It was the heavy artillery of that day, the sturdy springboard that shot menacing payloads over fortress walls and into enemy camps — flaming missiles, diseased corpses, lethal arrows and stony projectiles.

For centuries on end, at least until the proliferation of gunpowder in the 15th-century West, catapults saw action as the early weapons of mass destruction."

I would say that the reign of catapults was over once the trebuchet was invented _not_ with the proliferation of gunpowder. The trebuchet not gunpowder signalled the obsolecense of the catapult.

A trebuchet is type of catapult just as ballistae and onagers (what most people probably imagine when they hear the term 'catapult') are. The term is much broader than I think you realize.
 

smetzger said:
The trebuchet was/is much more accurate, had longer range, and could hurl bigger rocks.

Trebuchet's also tended to be fixed positions given the gravity-mass power system. Trebs also required a lot strong materials, given that pivot carrying a massive load. Bow-type or wound-sinew catapults were easier to make out of lighter materials.

I'd also imagine a mobile catapult went from scoot to shoot in a matter of minutes, versus the tower-assembly & mass loading of a treb.
 

LGodamus

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Trebuchet were powerful, but they were difficult to move around and setup, so they did not signal the end of lighter catapaults which were better artillery in the sense that you could take them where you needed them and fire on the enemy there....trebuchet were like stationary missle systems are today not really like forward artillery.
 

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