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<blockquote data-quote="TwoSix" data-source="post: 9296013" data-attributes="member: 205"><p>I don't think PAM is the right call here, when you have enough sorcery points at 20th level to make BA Quickened BB/GFB a default. For leveling, maybe, but not starting at 20th.</p><p></p><p>But GWM generally isn't the right answer either, once your average damage gets into the 20s per attack. Usually the -5 to attack is costing you a 25% to get all the base damage, which doesn't make the extra 10 for the other hits a good trade off.</p><p></p><p>However.</p><p></p><p>Your character, thanks to their collection of magic items, has an incredibly high accuracy (+18), to the point where they've actually capped their accuracy versus any AC < 20. Once accuracy is capped (either with high attack bonus or low target AC), GWM becomes a better and better option again, even as the base damage expression increases.</p><p></p><p>So, if you think the DM is going to throw in a good amount of mooks or meat sponges with sub 20 AC, then GWM is still an excellent option. If you're expecting to see ACs in the mid 20s or higher (this IS a level 20 game), then I would argue GWM is a less worthwhile option.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TwoSix, post: 9296013, member: 205"] I don't think PAM is the right call here, when you have enough sorcery points at 20th level to make BA Quickened BB/GFB a default. For leveling, maybe, but not starting at 20th. But GWM generally isn't the right answer either, once your average damage gets into the 20s per attack. Usually the -5 to attack is costing you a 25% to get all the base damage, which doesn't make the extra 10 for the other hits a good trade off. However. Your character, thanks to their collection of magic items, has an incredibly high accuracy (+18), to the point where they've actually capped their accuracy versus any AC < 20. Once accuracy is capped (either with high attack bonus or low target AC), GWM becomes a better and better option again, even as the base damage expression increases. So, if you think the DM is going to throw in a good amount of mooks or meat sponges with sub 20 AC, then GWM is still an excellent option. If you're expecting to see ACs in the mid 20s or higher (this IS a level 20 game), then I would argue GWM is a less worthwhile option. [/QUOTE]
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