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derickmoore25

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ac of 20 is cr 30. Hp of 20 is 1/8 that averages 15 on defencive cr. Then +6 hit is cr 5. 1d4+4 is average damage 6-7 for cr 1/2 averaging 2.75 so 3 offensive cr average. You average def and off cr for 15+3=18 half of 18 is 9 so i actually under estimated the cr by 1.
 

AaronOfBarbaria

Adventurer
ac of 20 is cr 30 hp of 20 is 1/8 that averages 15 on defencive cr
That's not how that works. You go to what CR the HP indicate, 1/8, and then move up the CR chart one step for every 2 points by which the AC is greater than the AC on the same CR row, which is 3 steps because 20 AC is 7 higher than 13 AC. That brings the defensive CR to 1 - not 15.

+6 hit is cr 5 1d4+4 is average damage 6-7 for cr 1/2 averaging 2.25 so 2 offensive
That's also not correct. You go to what CR the damage indicates, 1/2, and then move up the CR chart one step for every 2 points by which the attack bonus is greater than the attack bonus on the same CR row, which is 1 step because +6 is 3 higher than +3. That brings the offensive CR to 1 - not 2.25.

cr average you average def and off cr for 15+2=17 half of 17 is 8.5 which i rounded down.
Then you do this part with the correct numbers and get 1 + 1 = 2, which divided by 2 is 1 - not 8.5.
 

derickmoore25

First Post
That's not how that works. You go to what CR the HP indicate, 1/8, and then move up the CR chart one step for every 2 points by which the AC is greater than the AC on the same CR row, which is 3 steps because 20 AC is 7 higher than 13 AC. That brings the defensive CR to 1 - not 15.

That's also not correct. You go to what CR the damage indicates, 1/2, and then move up the CR chart one step for every 2 points by which the attack bonus is greater than the attack bonus on the same CR row, which is 1 step because +6 is 3 higher than +3. That brings the offensive CR to 1 - not 2.25.

Then you do this part with the correct numbers and get 1 + 1 = 2, which divided by 2 is 1 - not 8.5.

Yeah not sure why i was averaging don't know whats going on with me today sorry
 

jodyjohnson

Adventurer
For some reason I think the default duration is a day if there isn't one listed and not permanent.

Not sure where I read that. Maybe Twitter or buried somewhere in the DMG.
 

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