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D&D 5E Champion Improved Critical - Autohit on 19/18 or not?

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SigmaOne

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Hi All,

For the Champion Fighter, the Improved Critical feature at level 3 reads "... your weapon attacks score a critical hit on a roll of 19 o 20" and similarly at level 15.

It says if you roll a 19, you score a critical hit, and a critical hit is a hit. I read this as very clearly overriding the general rules for automatic hits to extend automatic hit from "only a 20" to 19 or 20. Thus if you roll a 19, you don't have to beat your target's AC. This seems like a clear-cut case of "Specific Beats General".

Other people are reading it differently. Because it does not explicitly say it is an automatic hit (which happens to be a critical hit) they believe you have to beat the target's AC on 19 (and later 18) in order to hit. Then if it is a hit, it is a critical.

I'm seeking your opinions on this.
 

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keterys

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It should probably work.

Entirely separate from whether the Champion should turn it into an autohit, an 18 or 19 on the die should pretty much always hit*, especially at that level :)

* If your first level characters want to smack Moradin, maybe not, but in encounters that would actually happen.
 

SigmaOne

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If you haven't seen it already, there's a fair amount of discussion here: http://www.enworld.org/forum/showth...ence-between-critical-hits-and-automatic-hits

Reading that thread, the verdict is an unambiguous... maybe :confused:

Although it'd be interesting to see this as a poll question.

Oh wow; that thread isn't even old! I tried a search but ENWorld responded that I could only do one search every 30 seconds... but that was the first search I tried! I guess I should have just manually looked back a bit. Thanks for the link!
 

Stalker0

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Since the OP found a link to the full conversation around his question, I am closing this thread.

--Stalker0
 

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