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<blockquote data-quote="Binho" data-source="post: 5748878" data-attributes="member: 6674967"><p>Hi guys. I was making characters builds just for fun. So I would like to hear your opinion about this gish-like build.</p><p></p><p>Cloistered 1, Wizard 4, Divine Oracle 2, mage of arcane order 3, Fochlucan lyrist 10; BAB 14, CL<em> arcane</em>19, CL <em>divine</em>11</p><p></p><p>human, str 14, dex 14, con 12, int 18, wis 12, cha 14 (house rule: the sum has to be 84, min 8, max 18)</p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><strong>1:</strong> Cloistered Cleric 1 - Lore(as Bard Knowledge), Travel Devotion, Knowledge Devotion, War Domain (WF: long sword), skill focus(religion), extend spell</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><strong>2:</strong> Cloistered Cleric 1, Wizard (1) - Familiar, script Scroll(I'm planning to trade this for fighter's feat)</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><strong>3:</strong> Cloistered Cleric 1, Wizard (2) - cooperative spell</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><strong>4:</strong> Cloistered Cleric 1, Wizard (3)</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><strong>5:</strong> Cloistered Cleric 1, Wizard (4)</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><strong>6:</strong> Cloistered Cleric 1, Wizard 4, Divine Oracle (1) - oracle domain, feat(?)</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><strong>7:</strong> Cloistered Cleric 1, Wizard 4, Divine Oracle (2)</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><strong>8:</strong> Cloistered Cleric 1, Wizard 4, Divine Oracle 2, Mage of Arcane Order (1)</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><strong>9:</strong> Cloistered Cleric 1, Wizard 4, Divine Oracle 2, Mage of Arcane Order (2) - </span><span style="font-size: 9px">holy warrior</span><span style="font-size: 9px">, metamagic feat(?)</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><strong>10:</strong> Cloistered Cleric 1, Wizard 4, Divine Oracle 2, Mage of Arcane Order (3) - language(druidic)</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><strong>11:</strong> Cloistered Cleric 1, Wizard 4, Divine Oracle 2, Mage of Arcane Order 3, Fochlucan lyrist (1)</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><strong>12:</strong> Cloistered Cleric 1, Wizard 4, Divine Oracle 2, Mage of Arcane Order 3, Fochlucan lyrist (2) - divine metamagic</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><strong>13:</strong> Cloistered Cleric 1, Wizard 4, Divine Oracle 2, Mage of Arcane Order 3, Fochlucan lyrist (3)</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><strong>14:</strong> Cloistered Cleric 1, Wizard 4, Divine Oracle 2, Mage of Arcane Order 3, Fochlucan lyrist (4)</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><strong>15:</strong> Cloistered Cleric 1, Wizard 4, Divine Oracle 2, Mage of Arcane Order 3, Fochlucan lyrist (5) - feat(?)</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><strong>16:</strong> Cloistered Cleric 1, Wizard 4, Divine Oracle 2, Mage of Arcane Order 3, Fochlucan lyrist (6)</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><strong>17:</strong> Cloistered Cleric 1, Wizard 4, Divine Oracle 2, Mage of Arcane Order 3, Fochlucan lyrist (7)</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><strong>18:</strong> Cloistered Cleric 1, Wizard 4, Divine Oracle 2, Mage of Arcane Order 3, Fochlucan lyrist (8) - feat(?)</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><strong>19:</strong> Cloistered Cleric 1, Wizard 4, Divine Oracle 2, Mage of Arcane Order 3, Fochlucan lyrist (9)</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px"><strong>20:</strong> Cloistered Cleric 1, Wizard 4, Divine Oracle 2, Mage of Arcane Order 3, Fochlucan lyrist (10)</span></p><p></p><p>PS: at level 10, I must have some item or spell that increases WIS.</p><p></p><p>I was thinking of give up familiar and take immediate magic(conjuration), also. The other option is go for sorccerer and use travel devotion like crazy.</p><p></p><p>I plan to use the spell substitute domain to change oracle domain. Someone know any domain that gives perform skill?</p><p>Can you guys point feats and combos that would be good for this kind of character? The main theme is arcane melee.</p><p>The requisite language(druidic) is fullfiled by the mage of arcane order 3, that gives a free language. Someone could argue that it shouldn't be avaliable to nondruids, but I could figure out (lore) a fallen druid and bribe/charm/treat him to teach me how to speak the language.</p><p>So, what about this build? Any mistake I'm making? Any way to make this stronger(substituitons levels, tactics,...)? How do you rate it?</p><p>Oh, if someone would advice other classes, I would prefer classes of the player's handbook and alterations of their from other books. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> !!!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Binho, post: 5748878, member: 6674967"] Hi guys. I was making characters builds just for fun. So I would like to hear your opinion about this gish-like build. Cloistered 1, Wizard 4, Divine Oracle 2, mage of arcane order 3, Fochlucan lyrist 10; BAB 14, CL[I] arcane[/I]19, CL [I]divine[/I]11 human, str 14, dex 14, con 12, int 18, wis 12, cha 14 (house rule: the sum has to be 84, min 8, max 18) [SIZE=1][B]1:[/B] Cloistered Cleric 1 - Lore(as Bard Knowledge), Travel Devotion, Knowledge Devotion, War Domain (WF: long sword), skill focus(religion), extend spell [B]2:[/B] Cloistered Cleric 1, Wizard (1) - Familiar, script Scroll(I'm planning to trade this for fighter's feat) [B]3:[/B] Cloistered Cleric 1, Wizard (2) - cooperative spell [B]4:[/B] Cloistered Cleric 1, Wizard (3) [B]5:[/B] Cloistered Cleric 1, Wizard (4) [B]6:[/B] Cloistered Cleric 1, Wizard 4, Divine Oracle (1) - oracle domain, feat(?) [B]7:[/B] Cloistered Cleric 1, Wizard 4, Divine Oracle (2) [B]8:[/B] Cloistered Cleric 1, Wizard 4, Divine Oracle 2, Mage of Arcane Order (1) [B]9:[/B] Cloistered Cleric 1, Wizard 4, Divine Oracle 2, Mage of Arcane Order (2) - [/SIZE][SIZE=1]holy warrior[/SIZE][SIZE=1], metamagic feat(?) [B]10:[/B] Cloistered Cleric 1, Wizard 4, Divine Oracle 2, Mage of Arcane Order (3) - language(druidic) [B]11:[/B] Cloistered Cleric 1, Wizard 4, Divine Oracle 2, Mage of Arcane Order 3, Fochlucan lyrist (1) [B]12:[/B] Cloistered Cleric 1, Wizard 4, Divine Oracle 2, Mage of Arcane Order 3, Fochlucan lyrist (2) - divine metamagic [B]13:[/B] Cloistered Cleric 1, Wizard 4, Divine Oracle 2, Mage of Arcane Order 3, Fochlucan lyrist (3) [B]14:[/B] Cloistered Cleric 1, Wizard 4, Divine Oracle 2, Mage of Arcane Order 3, Fochlucan lyrist (4) [B]15:[/B] Cloistered Cleric 1, Wizard 4, Divine Oracle 2, Mage of Arcane Order 3, Fochlucan lyrist (5) - feat(?) [B]16:[/B] Cloistered Cleric 1, Wizard 4, Divine Oracle 2, Mage of Arcane Order 3, Fochlucan lyrist (6) [B]17:[/B] Cloistered Cleric 1, Wizard 4, Divine Oracle 2, Mage of Arcane Order 3, Fochlucan lyrist (7) [B]18:[/B] Cloistered Cleric 1, Wizard 4, Divine Oracle 2, Mage of Arcane Order 3, Fochlucan lyrist (8) - feat(?) [B]19:[/B] Cloistered Cleric 1, Wizard 4, Divine Oracle 2, Mage of Arcane Order 3, Fochlucan lyrist (9) [B]20:[/B] Cloistered Cleric 1, Wizard 4, Divine Oracle 2, Mage of Arcane Order 3, Fochlucan lyrist (10)[/SIZE] PS: at level 10, I must have some item or spell that increases WIS. I was thinking of give up familiar and take immediate magic(conjuration), also. The other option is go for sorccerer and use travel devotion like crazy. I plan to use the spell substitute domain to change oracle domain. Someone know any domain that gives perform skill? Can you guys point feats and combos that would be good for this kind of character? The main theme is arcane melee. The requisite language(druidic) is fullfiled by the mage of arcane order 3, that gives a free language. Someone could argue that it shouldn't be avaliable to nondruids, but I could figure out (lore) a fallen druid and bribe/charm/treat him to teach me how to speak the language. So, what about this build? Any mistake I'm making? Any way to make this stronger(substituitons levels, tactics,...)? How do you rate it? Oh, if someone would advice other classes, I would prefer classes of the player's handbook and alterations of their from other books. :) !!! [/QUOTE]
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