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<blockquote data-quote="N'raac" data-source="post: 6703137" data-attributes="member: 6681948"><p>I'm not sure why we feel the player needs to be "penalized" more for having a character die. "I just can't make a Paladin work in this game" seems a lot less in-game dramatic and fun than "and the bold Paladin remained behind to guard the bridge, giving his own life that his comrades at arms might escape to fight another day". "This character isn't powerful enough so I'm going to retire him and bring in something more optimized" also doesn't strike me as great for the game.</p><p></p><p>However, Raise Dead would cost the character a level, so it seems fair the new character would be down a level. In Pathfinder, the negative levels bestowed by Raise Dead can be restored, so I would have a different view there (maybe he should be WBL-light by the cost of the Restoration spells), and pe-3e, I recall being Raised reduced CON, not levels, so that's a different ballpark as well.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This I concur with 100%. The group has established the practice that sets the standard for new characters. If the group wants to discuss a change to that approach, then my bias would be that, first, the new character is brought in under the present rule, and then we discuss whether the standard should be changed going forward.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="N'raac, post: 6703137, member: 6681948"] I'm not sure why we feel the player needs to be "penalized" more for having a character die. "I just can't make a Paladin work in this game" seems a lot less in-game dramatic and fun than "and the bold Paladin remained behind to guard the bridge, giving his own life that his comrades at arms might escape to fight another day". "This character isn't powerful enough so I'm going to retire him and bring in something more optimized" also doesn't strike me as great for the game. However, Raise Dead would cost the character a level, so it seems fair the new character would be down a level. In Pathfinder, the negative levels bestowed by Raise Dead can be restored, so I would have a different view there (maybe he should be WBL-light by the cost of the Restoration spells), and pe-3e, I recall being Raised reduced CON, not levels, so that's a different ballpark as well. This I concur with 100%. The group has established the practice that sets the standard for new characters. If the group wants to discuss a change to that approach, then my bias would be that, first, the new character is brought in under the present rule, and then we discuss whether the standard should be changed going forward. [/QUOTE]
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