Converting original D&D and Mystara monsters

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Cleon

Legend
So...what's left?

Figuring out the Challenge Rating table. I suggest taking the original CR of the monsters and guesstimating what the Gargantua version's CR should be, that will give some idea of the adjustment we want.

Mystaran Gargantua Carrion Crawler: CR 13 (Base CR 3)
Mystaran Gargantua Gargoyle: CR 16 (Base CR 4)
Mystaran Gargantua Troll: CR 18 (Base CR 5)
Mystaran Gargantua Monitor Lizard: CR 10 (Base CR 2)
Mystaran Gargantua Constrictor Snake: CR 10 (Base CR 2)
Mystaran Gargantua Viper Snake: CR 6 (Base CR 1/2)
Mystaran Gargantua Giant Carp: CR 18 (Base CR4 +2 for water blast?)
Mystaran Gargantua Treant: CR 27 (Base CR 8)
Mystaran Gargantua Spectre: CR 24 (Base CR 7)
Mystaran Gargantua Wight: CR 13 (Base CR 3)

Looks like most of the CRs are a couple of points too low, but the Treant and Spectre are about right.

What do you think of this revised table:

Mystaran Gargantua Challenge Rating Table
Old CR . . . New CR
up to 1/4 . . CR 5
1/3 or 1/2 .. CR 7
. . 1 . . . . CR 10
. . 2 . . . . CR 12
. . 3 . . . . CR 15
. . 4 . . . . CR 18
. . 5 . . . . CR 20
. . 6 . . . . CR 22
. . 7 . . . . CR 24
each +1 . . . CR +3

That would give them CRs of:

Mystaran Gargantua Carrion Crawler: CR 15 (Base CR 3)
Mystaran Gargantua Gargoyle: CR 18 (Base CR 4)
Mystaran Gargantua Troll: CR 20 (Base CR 5)
Mystaran Gargantua Monitor Lizard: CR 12 (Base CR 2)
Mystaran Gargantua Constrictor Snake: CR 12 (Base CR 2)
Mystaran Gargantua Viper Snake: CR 7 (Base CR 1/2)
Mystaran Gargantua Giant Carp: CR 20 (Base CR4, +2 for water blast?)
Mystaran Gargantua Treant: CR 27 (Base CR 8)
Mystaran Gargantua Spectre: CR 24 (Base CR 7)
Mystaran Gargantua Wight: CR 15 (Base CR 3)
 
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Shade

Monster Junkie
What do you think of this revised table:

Mystaran Gargantua Challenge Rating Table
Old CR . . . New CR
up to 1/4 . . CR 5
1/3 or 1/2 .. CR 7
. . 1 . . . . CR 10
. . 2 . . . . CR 12
. . 3 . . . . CR 15
. . 4 . . . . CR 18
. . 5 . . . . CR 20
. . 6 . . . . CR 22
. . 7 . . . . CR 24
each +1 . . . CR +3

It looks good! Updated.

Have you guys converted the Chameleon Man yet?

I don't think so. It's not in the Creature Catalog list.

A quick google couldn't find any 3E conversions, so it looks like it's a good candidate for conversion.

I checked Echohawk's index, and it looks like it's unconverted anywhere, so we can tackle it. I'm surprised we missed it when we "finished off" all the lizardfolk awhile back.
 
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Mortis

First Post
CR table looks good - so I guess we're finished with the Mystaran Gargantuans.

It's also probably a good time for Shade to lock the thread and start a new one. ;)

RE: Chameleon Man
Shade said:
I checked Echohawk's index, and it looks like it's unconverted anywhere, so we can tackle it.
Not quite anywhere - doesn't stop us doing a conversion though.
Savage Coast Monstrous Compendium
More background info.

Regards
Mortis
 
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