Could Wolverine kill Superman?

[Dannyalcatraz]

My (admittedly possibly flawed and definitely incomplete) understanding is that Superman's invulnerability has limits. If you can keep up enough pressure on him, or catch him when he's exhausted, he'll eventually go down. That's just going to be a lot harder for someone to do who isn't on the same power level as he is.

Even after Supes' powers got rewritten to "de-God" him a bit, he's still almost in a class by himself in terms of invulnerability and overall power.* AFAIK, no mundane material short of a kryptonite variant has ever injured him. So mere adamantium- or whatever super-hard material you'd care to name- won't cut it. (Sorry, had to.)










* Supes' main concerns would be: kryptonite, magic and its wielders, quardian energies and its wielders, and beings of like power. A list of these would include (but would not be limited to) Green Lanterns, Daxamites, Capt. Marvel (and the other Shazam-powered bunch), Ultra-Boy (occasionally), Martian Manhunter (occasionally), Wonder Woman (occasionally), Super Girl (occasionally), Power Girl (occasionally) Ultraa, Doomsday, certain Eternals and any being or tech of Kryptonian (or presumably Daxamite) origins.

 

[noretoc]

The Executor has a gravity well projector. Can the enterprise enter warp when under the influence of a planet's gravity?

 

[jonesy]

But, then again, in standard superhero comics, everything runs on Popularity Power and Narrativism rather than logic or physics.

Squirrel Girl enters, everybody loses.

 

[Aluvial]

*Note: I'm not even mentioning the fact that Star Wars is BILLIONS of years into the future, meaning their tech should be "magical" compaired to the 25th century.

"A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away..."

 

[Relique du Madde]

"A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away..."

Conversation already happened....

 

[Relique du Madde]

Squirrel Girl enters, everybody loses.

Damn you Jonesy! Why must you make repping you so difficult?

Seriously! Squirrel Girl is *canonically* the strongest mos powerful hero in Marvel that isn't tied to any team (she recently left The GLA because she held them back). I remember reading somewhere that the reason why she wsn't included in the most recent events was because she fought against Galactus and Thanos, found the Scarlet Witch (twice), prevented Darkest Night from crossing over into Marvel U (which would have been redundant because of Chaos War and Necrosha), defeated Adrian Veidt befoe he could teleport a giant space squid into Manhattan (but did it anyways because it made her fur stink), brought world peace, ended the global recession, created a viable competitor to the iPad 2 (and didn't release it because she knew it would kill apple), and then blew up the Death Star by throwing Tippy-Toe at it.

 

[Umbran]

The Executor has a gravity well projector. Can the enterprise enter warp when under the influence of a planet's gravity?

I don't think Trek's depiction of this is consistent or comprehensive enough to tell us. Trek Starships regularly go to warp from orbit, but there are canon instances of some gravity fields making ships drop out of warp, or keep warp fields from forming.

To split the difference - Trek ships probably have fail-safe systems to keep them from plowing into large or unusual objects at warp, and you can kick an unsuspecting starship out of warp if you're really clever, and you can keep the warp field form forming with very focused, targeted beams.

As I understand it, Star Wars gravity well projectors are not so focused - they are not built to target individual ships, but instead to interdict known star lanes by putting a "planet" in the way. It is more a strategic device than a tactical one.

And, as a genre point - Imperial ships are built to specifications, and work as intended. Federation ships are regularly modified to work off-spec by enterprising engineers.

All of which discussion is a bit moot unless we figure out if Imperial weaponry has any notable impact on shielded Federation ships. To my mind, indications are that by the time of Next Generation, lasers and ion beams aren't much of an issue, and you need more exotic stuff to be a major threat to a starship.

 

[jonesy]

Damn you Jonesy! Why must you make repping you so difficult?

Seriously! Squirrel Girl is *canonically* the strongest mos powerful hero in Marvel that isn't tied to any team...

Being Danielle Cage's babysitter kind of makes her a backdoor member of the New Avengers.

 

[Relique du Madde]

The Avengers have no credibility since they have the Beast as a member. The Beast has *the worst* history of Genocide within the Marvel U outside Bishop, the Phoenixes, Break World, Galactus, Marvel Zombies, and the Hulks.

Squirrel Girl is better off on her own.

 

[jonesy]

The Avengers have no credibility since they have the Beast as a member. The Beast has *the worst* history of Genocide within the Marvel U outside Bishop, the Phoenixes, Break World, Galactus, Marvel Zombies, and the Hulks.

Squirrel Girl is better off on her own.

Beast isn't a member of New Avengers.