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<blockquote data-quote="Dausuul" data-source="post: 6455948" data-attributes="member: 58197"><p>The problem is that Strength is used for a variety of things, only some of which correspond to brute muscle power. If an elephant's Strength score were proportional to its brute power, then it would never miss on attacks and it could climb walls like a master thief.</p><p></p><p>D&D's resolution to this is to have your Strength score be partly relative to your size category. Thus, a Strength 17 horse (Large) can carry more than a Strength 18 human (Medium); but the human is better at climbing and swimming, and can hit more accurately. Larger creatures still tend to have higher Strength, but not in proportion to their size.</p><p></p><p>Grappling involves two questions; whether you can catch hold of another creature, and whether you can control it once you've grabbed it. The grab is akin to an attack roll, while the ability to control the grabbed creature is much more of a brute power question. 3E split these out into a touch attack to start the grapple and a size-adjusted Grapple check once the grapple begins. In 5E, the grapple check is how you start the grapple, and the question of control boils down to encumbrance and size: You must be able to move the weight of any creature you're grappling, and your movement is halved unless you're 2+ sizes larger.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dausuul, post: 6455948, member: 58197"] The problem is that Strength is used for a variety of things, only some of which correspond to brute muscle power. If an elephant's Strength score were proportional to its brute power, then it would never miss on attacks and it could climb walls like a master thief. D&D's resolution to this is to have your Strength score be partly relative to your size category. Thus, a Strength 17 horse (Large) can carry more than a Strength 18 human (Medium); but the human is better at climbing and swimming, and can hit more accurately. Larger creatures still tend to have higher Strength, but not in proportion to their size. Grappling involves two questions; whether you can catch hold of another creature, and whether you can control it once you've grabbed it. The grab is akin to an attack roll, while the ability to control the grabbed creature is much more of a brute power question. 3E split these out into a touch attack to start the grapple and a size-adjusted Grapple check once the grapple begins. In 5E, the grapple check is how you start the grapple, and the question of control boils down to encumbrance and size: You must be able to move the weight of any creature you're grappling, and your movement is halved unless you're 2+ sizes larger. [/QUOTE]
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