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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 7365225" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>In 1998, I'd been running D&D for 10 years, myself.</p><p></p><p>I find the Llolth-as-demon angle, which is indeed from 1998 (when the FR was perhaps at it's worst, well, barring the insanity in 4E, I mean I like 4E but that stuff with the FR was just stupid), pretty uncompelling myself. It's kind of cliche and Christian-esque (Lucifer etc.), rather than having the mythic/mythological vibes a god vs god conflict has. It also doesn't really make a lot of sense, setting-wise.</p><p></p><p>Just seems like one of WotC (and TSR)'s many changes for the sake of change, rather than actual things that made the setting more exciting. Trying to leverage the Raven Queen (who is basically just a cool name and nothing else of substance) into settings like the FR is bit meh as well.</p><p></p><p>Of course I'm biased because I think the FR deity setup peaked before or shortly after the original Time of Troubles. Since then we've just increasing numbers of tacky or ludicrous gods and situations with gods in the FR - and it's not like the FR wasn't already borderline (well, more than borderline) tacky/trashy already, so it's just dragging it down further.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 7365225, member: 18"] In 1998, I'd been running D&D for 10 years, myself. I find the Llolth-as-demon angle, which is indeed from 1998 (when the FR was perhaps at it's worst, well, barring the insanity in 4E, I mean I like 4E but that stuff with the FR was just stupid), pretty uncompelling myself. It's kind of cliche and Christian-esque (Lucifer etc.), rather than having the mythic/mythological vibes a god vs god conflict has. It also doesn't really make a lot of sense, setting-wise. Just seems like one of WotC (and TSR)'s many changes for the sake of change, rather than actual things that made the setting more exciting. Trying to leverage the Raven Queen (who is basically just a cool name and nothing else of substance) into settings like the FR is bit meh as well. Of course I'm biased because I think the FR deity setup peaked before or shortly after the original Time of Troubles. Since then we've just increasing numbers of tacky or ludicrous gods and situations with gods in the FR - and it's not like the FR wasn't already borderline (well, more than borderline) tacky/trashy already, so it's just dragging it down further. [/QUOTE]
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