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The 2nd Edition computer program was TSR, not WotC. TSR made many mistakes that would be unfair to attribute to WotC. Besides, a lot of us felt the 2nd Edition program was pretty cool. Not perfect by any means, but useful and cool. So I wouldn't even count that as a failure.2nd edition Core Rules(?) - Failure
Master Tools - Failure
eTools - Failure
Magic - Failure
I guess that's really just my opinion, but yeah, "fumbles for years".
We were not promised a Beta, we were promised a finished product. And for that matter, we don't even have a beta to play with for most of it.
E-tools and Master Tools are one and the same project, and only counts for one failure, not two. While a useable e-tools was eventually released with data for most of the 3rd Edition products, it came just before the switch to 4th Edition and was too little, too late.
Magic the Gathering online seems to work just fine for a lot of folks. I would also disagree with failure for this one. It may not be perfect, it may not suit your particular tastes, but is hardly a failure.
D&D Insider? We all would have loved to see this thing up and running 100% on June 7, but the delays hardly constitute failure. What is up so far seems to be pretty good to me, and I am comfortable withholding judgement until the suite of tools is fully released (or if enough time has passed, like say past Xmas).
And also, for those of us who followed the behind-the-scenes goings on for both e-tools/Master Tools and D&D Insider, we are talking to completely different beasts. E-tools/Master Tools was a complete disaster, but I am very optimistic that WotC will pull off D&D Insider. It won't be to everyone's tastes, but I'm excited for it.
Edit: Oops, looks like most of my points were already covered pretty well in the thread. Should have read the whole darn thing before posting.
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