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<blockquote data-quote="Ilbranteloth" data-source="post: 7426427" data-attributes="member: 6778044"><p>Huh? I have no intention, nor have I attempted to discredit anything you'd suggested. I simply stated that I didn't care for what you were proposing, and why.</p><p></p><p>Furthermore, my objections are to the design of the 3e rules for vision - it's not your houserule. It was the published RAW for 3e through 4e. The only objection I have to what you propose is to reintroduce a rule I didn't like in the first place.</p><p></p><p>I obviously didn't do a very good job at explaining what I don't like, because based on what you've stated in further examples you aren't understanding my issues. I'm OK with that, because I certainly don't think you'd be intentionally trying to troll me or bait me, and I don't think you're stupid either. My failure to explain myself lies squarely on my shoulders. Oh, and my consideration of what you and others have said here is also what led me to another houserule option that I hadn't thought about.</p><p></p><p>In the end, it's not really relevant whether you understand why I don't like it, and you certainly don't have to agree with it. I realized that I was spending a lot of time trying to find a different way to explain my thoughts, when it's really irrelevant because we aren't going to agree on what each of us thinks is a solution. Again, there's no problem with that, that's the beauty of the game. It can work with all sorts of different types of players, with different perspectives and ideas. </p><p></p><p>Regardless, I wish you well. You've repeated your suggestion multiple times in the thread, and I see you've posted it again. In fact, I will help ensure that it is not lost since I replied to you, and to avoid causing further interference I will post it here too. I'm certainly not here to get in your (or anybody else's) way in presenting their ideas for the game.</p><p></p><p>For everybody else, here's [MENTION=12731]CapnZapp[/MENTION]'s well-tested solution (2 full editions plus Pathfinder) for all of your darkvision woes! Enjoy!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ilbranteloth, post: 7426427, member: 6778044"] Huh? I have no intention, nor have I attempted to discredit anything you'd suggested. I simply stated that I didn't care for what you were proposing, and why. Furthermore, my objections are to the design of the 3e rules for vision - it's not your houserule. It was the published RAW for 3e through 4e. The only objection I have to what you propose is to reintroduce a rule I didn't like in the first place. I obviously didn't do a very good job at explaining what I don't like, because based on what you've stated in further examples you aren't understanding my issues. I'm OK with that, because I certainly don't think you'd be intentionally trying to troll me or bait me, and I don't think you're stupid either. My failure to explain myself lies squarely on my shoulders. Oh, and my consideration of what you and others have said here is also what led me to another houserule option that I hadn't thought about. In the end, it's not really relevant whether you understand why I don't like it, and you certainly don't have to agree with it. I realized that I was spending a lot of time trying to find a different way to explain my thoughts, when it's really irrelevant because we aren't going to agree on what each of us thinks is a solution. Again, there's no problem with that, that's the beauty of the game. It can work with all sorts of different types of players, with different perspectives and ideas. Regardless, I wish you well. You've repeated your suggestion multiple times in the thread, and I see you've posted it again. In fact, I will help ensure that it is not lost since I replied to you, and to avoid causing further interference I will post it here too. I'm certainly not here to get in your (or anybody else's) way in presenting their ideas for the game. For everybody else, here's [MENTION=12731]CapnZapp[/MENTION]'s well-tested solution (2 full editions plus Pathfinder) for all of your darkvision woes! Enjoy! [/QUOTE]
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