Belphanior
First Post
To people who prefer 3E to 4E, 4E is change for the sake of change, because we find the changes to be either pointless or worse overall
But that isn't what "change for the sake of change" means. That's just a change you (the generic you) happen to disagree with. All the mechanics that are different, all the names that were changed, the new cosmology, they were all done for reasons. I'm aware of those reasons because I've read the preview books and dragon articles about the subject.
See, this is precisely why I brought up this question. I see this buzzphrase thrown around a lot, and it appears to me it's simply a codeword for "I don't like it". And you have only confirmed it for me.
But the OP was asking why 4E being different is bad. I thought that meant he wanted to know...why it's bad. If you don't think the differences are bad (you like 4E), how much are you going to contribute in response beyond "It's not bad."?
Do you really think that's what I said? "It's not bad"?
No, I'm asking you a question to elaborate on a statement of yours. There is no value judgment in that. Whether or not 4e is good or bad is entirely subjective, I have no reason to argue with anybody over it. But I do have reason to argue with somebody when he or she says something that I feel to be untrue.
Others have listed some things they find to be change for no good reason, I could make up my whole list, but I don't really feel like it. All of it would just end up being a subset of "change for the sake of change."
I think this shows a massive misunderstanding of what "change for the sake of change" actually means. Just like Mustrum_Ridcully I can think of many changes that were made, as well as the reasons why they were done. Whether or not a given person agrees with the reasons is not relevant for determining if it's done for the sake of change. Something that was done for reasons of clarity or gamebalance were done for those purposes, no matter how much people might disagree.