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Scion

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So there isnt a rule against it, you would just prefer it to not be able to happen for flavor reasons?

Which seems along the same lines as people not liking flaming/icy weapons.

If it is lawful and chaotic then it will do bad things to anyone which either does bad things to.
 

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Hypersmurf

Moderatarrrrh...
Scion said:
So there isnt a rule against it, you would just prefer it to not be able to happen for flavor reasons?

What? No.

There are nine alignments in D&D.

Lawful Good, Lawful Neutral, Lawful Evil.
Neutral Good, Neutral, Neutral Evil.
Chaotic Good, Chaotic Neutral, Chaotic Evil.

An Axiomatic weapon is lawfully aligned. Therefore it must be Lawful Good, Lawful Neutral, or Lawful Evil.

An Anarchic weapon is chaotically aligned. Therefore it must be Chaotic Good, Chaotic Neutral, or Chaotic Evil.

An Axiomatic, Holy weapon is lawfully aligned and good aligned. Therefore it must be Lawful Good.

An Axiomatic, Anarchic weapon would lawfully and chaotically aligned. However, none of the nine alignments support this combination; therefore, it's impossible.

-Hyp.
 

Scion

First Post
Hypersmurf said:
However, none of the nine alignments support this combination; therefore, it's impossible.

so... there is no rule.. you just feel that it should not be allowed, in the same way that people feel hot and cold cant be in the same place at the same time.

Edit: items are not creatures, just because creatures may be limited in such a fashion it does not mean that items are necissarily as well.
 
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Hypersmurf

Moderatarrrrh...
Scion said:
so... there is no rule..

Sure there is. There are nine alignments.

Those abilities give an item an alignment. Since there are only nine, the alignment it has must be one of them. Trying to put Anarchic and Axiomatic on the same weapon requires a nonexistent alignment.

-Hyp.
 

Scion

First Post
Sure, one gives one kind of alignment. Another gives another. So it counts as both.

But it isnt a creature, it doesnt use the alignment axis in any way that needs to be checked as 'the nine alignments'.

It simply counts as X and Y. Nothing seems to say otherwise.

Whenever something happens that checks for alignment it looks at it and says, 'is it X?' if it is then do this, if not then do that.
 

Hypersmurf

Moderatarrrrh...
Scion said:
But it isnt a creature, it doesnt use the alignment axis in any way that needs to be checked as 'the nine alignments'.

Why not?

It doesn't "behave as though it were lawful for the purposes of any effect dependent upon alignment"; it "is lawfully aligned".

-Hyp.
 

Scion

First Post
Thats fine, but why does it have to be restricted to what you are saying?

Just like the people who are completely against something being hot and cold you are against it being lawful and chaotic, for very similar reasons.

They dont say they cant both be used in conjunction, then they can. Easy enough.
 


Alzrius

The EN World kitten
Hypersmurf said:
But Lawful Chaotic isn't an alignment!

Doesn't matter. Only creatures or intelligent items have an alignment. Non-intelligent magical items aren't creatures.

The anarchic/axiomatic/unholy/holy listings are not alignments, they are magical weapon properties.

These properties are suppressed in an antimagic field; alignments are not. They can be destroyed by a disjunction spell; alignments cannot.

Saying that an anarchic/axiomatic weapon combination is invalid because it's not allowable for "real" alignments is like saying that you can't have a frost/flaming weapon because no creature has the Fire and Cold subtypes...it's fallacious because it's drawing an artificial parallel (and incidentally, you can have both Fire and Cold subtypes.

The rules, as written, do not state that you cannot have a weapon that could be imbued with the anarchic, axiomatic, holy, and unholy properties all at once. There's no reason why you can't have a +2 anarchic axiomatic holy unholy longsword. That longsword has no actual alignment...it just has four magic properties.

Now, if you wanted to make that sword sentient, that'd be something else again...
 

Hypersmurf

Moderatarrrrh...
Alzrius said:
The anarchic/axiomatic/unholy/holy listings are not alignments, they are magical weapon properties.

They are magical weapon properties that confer an alignment. The weapon is lawfully-aligned.

-Hyp.
 

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