D&D (2024) Do you plan to adopt D&D5.5One2024Redux?

[tetrasodium]

Asked and answered in the post you quoted. It's only binary so long as one side absolutely insists that it is. Which is the definition of not compromising. If your definition of compromise is that only one side can ever "win" or get their way, that's not a definition of compromise that anyone else is using. Again, this is why your conversation has ground to a screeching halt. You are insisting on using a definition of compromise that isn't how anyone else is using it.

countable] an agreement made between two people or groups in which each side gives up some of the things they want so that both sides are happy at the end

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The example player is not giving up anything they have to give and is the only one walking away happy in the end.

 

[Lanefan]

It can only be binary if the DM insists on it being binary. Partial exceptions(compromise) can be made if the DM is open to it. That's what you are not seeing.

My assumption is that the choice is strictly between one version of RAW or the other, for whatever element is in question - in other words, which book are we using if-when we have to look this up. Any resolution other than "this version" or "that version" gets into houseruling, which is fine but is also outside the assumed framework.

 

[TwoSix]

It is really fun to watch people really not understand words. Apparently compromise never meant what I understand it to mean. Just like update. Hmmmm.

D&D 2024, the compromised update edition.

 

[Hussar]

countable] an agreement made between two people or groups in which each side gives up some of the things they want so that both sides are happy at the end

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Definition of compromise noun in Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary. Meaning, pronunciation, picture, example sentences, grammar, usage notes, synonyms and more.

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The example player is not giving up anything they have to give and is the only one walking away happy in the end.

I'm assuming that means compromise.

Yes the player is giving up several things - he is not getting everything he wants, only some. It's only the fact that you are absolutely refusing to budge from the idea that there can be only two elements in the discussion.

 

[Hussar]

My assumption is that the choice is strictly between one version of RAW or the other, for whatever element is in question - in other words, which book are we using if-when we have to look this up. Any resolution other than "this version" or "that version" gets into houseruling, which is fine but is also outside the assumed framework.

And if building a campaign and a social contract for a group only ever came down to one single instance of choosing between two points, then I'd agree with you. However, most campaigns, from character creation on forward, are a series of conversations between the players and the DM, meaning that it is almost never a simple binary.

 

[tetrasodium]

I'm assuming that means compromise.

Yes the player is giving up several things - he is not getting everything he wants, only some. It's only the fact that you are absolutely refusing to budge from the idea that there can be only two elements in the discussion.

No. When I pointed out the unreasonable problems caused for the GM by house ruling a mix n match edition I got told that it's not for me to decide because there was some form of compromise or those problems are simply ignored.

 

[Hussar]

No. When I pointed out the unreasonable problems caused for the GM by house ruling a mix n match edition I got told that it's not for me to decide because there was some form of compromise or those problems are simply ignored.

Yes.

 

[TwoSix]

Yes.

I'm so lost right now LOL.

 

[Parmandur]

You are insisting on using a definition of compromise that isn't how anyone else is using it.

Ironic, innit?

 

[Lanefan]

And if building a campaign and a social contract for a group only ever came down to one single instance of choosing between two points, then I'd agree with you. However, most campaigns, from character creation on forward, are a series of conversations between the players and the DM, meaning that it is almost never a simple binary.

Thing is, absent any houseruling the question of 2014 vs 2024 is either one big binary (wholesale use of one version or the other) or more likely a whole lot of small binaries as to which elements from which version will be used; and those conversations you speak of will be over which way each of those smaller binaries gets decided.