[DRA] Sneaky Staff

[Ketjak]

Sneaky Staff
In trained hands, a staff can be used for jabs and
quick strikes which allow the wielder to hit vulnerable
areas when the opportunity presents itself.
Prerequisite: Sneak Attack
Benefit: You can gain the benefits of Sneak Attack
and your Weapon Finesse class feature when you
make a weapon attack with a quarterstaff, and you
gain proficiency in the quarterstaff. In addition, you
can use a quarterstaff with rogue powers that require
a light blade and are not ranged or area powers.

For those without a program...
quarterstaff proficiency
use quarterstaff with light blade, not ranged or area
sneak attack with every quarterstaff attack


Really?

- Ket

 

[Minifig]

Yeah, but, you have to have quarterstaff proficiency AND sneak attack,..

I agree though, sneak attack quarterstaff attacks are down right wrong..

Quarterstaff = 2d8
Sneak Attack = an additional lvl1-10 = 2d6, lvl11-20 = 3d6, lvl21-30 = 5d6.


That's absolutely MAD damage.

 

[Ketjak]

Yeah, but, you have to have quarterstaff proficiency...

Like what the feat gives, you mean.

 

[john112364]

I'm pretty sure that in order to gain the benefits of Sneak Attack you would still have to have combat advantage against your opponent. This feat just allows you to do something that you normally would not be able to do with a staff i.e. sneak attack.

 

[Minifig]

Is it worth it to a Rogue to lose a feat slot though?

I calculated out a grand total of 46 damage, not including the +2 modifier (because of the combat advantage modifier) at levels 21-30.. if your d6's all hit at max hit.

Surely there are better weapons for a rogue to be using... aren't there?

 

[OnlineDM]

I agree though, sneak attack quarterstaff attacks are down right wrong..

Quarterstaff = 2d8

Quarterstaff is 1d8 damage, not 2d8 (that would be insane!).

This feat simply gives you proficiency with the quarterstaff (+2 for proficiency) and lets it count as a "rogue weapon" for the purpose of determining whether you can use Sneak Attack (normally requiring a light blade, hand crossbow, sling or short bow - this feat adds the quarterstaff to that list).

Is this really a big deal? If you're worried about it being overpowered, compare it to a rogue using a rapier (+3 for proficiency and the same 1d8 damage). I think it's mostly for flavor purposes, and I think that's cool.

 

[Minifig]

Quarterstaff is 1d8 damage, not 2d8 (that would be insane!).

It's d8 on the primary end, and the secondary end, the off hand, is another d8, so I suppose your right.

I play a Warden so I'm used to counting my shield as an instant interrupt, so I'm used to saying my off-hand still counts as 'one move' even when I attack.

 

[The Little Raven]

It's d8 on the primary end, and the secondary end, the off hand, is another d8, so I suppose your right.

You'd have to take another feat (Staff Fighting) for this to be the case.

 

[Klaus]

For those without a program...
quarterstaff proficiency
use quarterstaff with light blade, not ranged or area
sneak attack with every quarterstaff attack


Really?

- Ket

You gain the benefit of Sneak Attack, whose benefit is "when you have combat advantage, you deal +1d6 damage once per turn". So no big deal, it simply allows you to use the staff as a rogue weapon.

Also, the requirement (Sneak Attack) means that any rogue can take it, Essentials or not.

 

[noodle fish mice]

You mean +2d6, right?