Stalker0 said:Right now charisma is a big benefit to classes that rely on it, but is completely worthless for classes that don't. On the other hand we have con, which in most games is needed for everyone. I've never seen a character put an 8 in con with a point buy.
I've seen one guy do this (or maybe it was a 10). We were 18th level at the time, and he did it basically just to prove a point. He died in his first fight, when we blew up a balor.
He would also have died in his 2nd fight, in the same way, but I remembered at the last minute and dragged him out of there.