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Zander

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Gez said:
In both of these classics, Dwarf == Gnome == Elf.
While the dwarves (or dwarfs) in the Grimm story are about the size of a seven-year-old and do live in a cottage in the woods, they are good, very orderly (lawful?) and work in the mountains looking for precious metals all of which suggests beings that approximate D&D dwarves more than gnomes or elves. Moreover, in other tales, the Grimm brothers have small but mischievous creatures called elves, so at least as far as the Grimm brothers are concerned Dwarf ≠ Elf.

As for the Nibelung, the most well known retelling is the German one derived from Norse tales in which a hoard of treasure originates from an avaricious dwarf named Andvari. In the Norse tradition, greedy, chthonic dwarves are known as duergar or svartálfar (dark elves) and are distinct from angelic elves known as ljósálfar (light elves). If in the Norse tale and the German retelling of the Nibelung they had meant ljósálfar - which most closely approximate the elf of D&D - they would have said. Avarice or at least treasure-hoarding and living underground are characteristics of D&D dwarves. So the dwarf of the Nibelung, is more similar to a D&D dwarf than any other race. In the Nibelung, it cannot be said that Dwarf = Elf.
 
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Kae'Yoss

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Maggan said:
Ok, so what's the double "="?

"Does equal a lot" or "Does not equal"? I'm confused.

/M

a==b usually means "is a equal b?", so it is a boolean conjunction (being either true or false, represented by 1 and 0, respectively).

a=b means "give a the value of b", it's an assignment (meaning a is asigned the value of b).
 

Turjan

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Zander said:
If in the Norse tale and the German retelling of the Nibelung they had meant ljósálfar - which most closely approximate the elf of D&D - they would have said. Avarice or at least treasure-hoarding and living underground are characteristics of D&D dwarves. So the dwarf of the Nibelung, is more similar to a D&D dwarf than any other race. In the Nibelung, it cannot be said that Dwarf = Elf.
In the most common version of the Nibelung, that dwarf is called "Alberich". Which means "King of the Elves" *shrug*.
 
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Gez

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Maggan said:
Ok, so what's the double "="?

"Does equal a lot" or "Does not equal"? I'm confused.

/M

Programming habit. As Kae Yoss explained, in most programming languages, the single = is the assignation operator (x=4 means that you set x to have a value of 4), while comparison is made with two of them. It's not an universal rule, the Pascal language uses := for assignation and = for comparison.


And yep, Alberich == Alfe Rick, elfking.
 

Kae'Yoss

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Turjan said:
In the most common version of the Nibelung, that dwarf is called "Alberich". Which means "King of the Elves" *shrug*.

That was his nickname. He used to dress in pink satin and twine flowers into his beard.

Gez said:
Programming habit. As Kae Yoss explained, in most programming languages

If by most, you mean C and derivatives, then you're right :p
 

Gez

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Kae'Yoss said:
If by most, you mean C and derivatives, then you're right :p

C's family is a big family. C, C++, C#, Perl, Java, JavaScript, PHP... Really, most computer programming nowadays are made with one or several of them.
 


Zander

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Turjan said:
In the most common version of the Nibelung, that dwarf is called "Alberich". Which means "King of the Elves" *shrug*.
I don't think too much faith can be placed in the origin of character names. In the Nibelungenlied, Alberich is neither an elf nor a king.
 


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