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Eagle Summons the Fire + Garrote Grip = Instant Kill?

Alex319

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I came up with a way of instantly killing almost any enemy using the above two powers. You need:

(1) A Shaman with the Eagle Summons the Fire ability from the Keen Eagle paragon path.

(2) A Rogue with the Garrote Grip power.

(3) Some way of signaling over long distances.

The procedure goes as follows:

(1) Hire a whole bunch of civilians (several dozen at least), hand them each a bow and arrows. It doesn't matter how horrible they are at attacking (in fact it works better the lower their attack bonus is.) Have them stay in town while you go out adventuring.

(2) When you encounter the BBEG, have the Rogue Garrote Grip him, then have the Shaman summon his spirit companion adjacent to the rogue. Now the Rogue is a legal target for all your allies' attacks, and any attacks that miss the Rogue hit the BBEG.

(3) Signal the civilians back at town to let loose, targeting the Rogue. They can do this because of ESTF. They'll be at -7 or -12 to attack (-5 for total concealment since they won't be able to see you, -2 for long range, and possible -5 additional if you're inside a dungeon or building so the line is blocked.) Assuming their attack bonus is low enough, they'll only hit the Rogue on a natural 20, and everything else will miss, and get redirected to hit the BBEG. So the rogue will soak up a few hits, but the BBEG will soak up 19 times as many.
 

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Wik

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Ha ha. Try it in my game, buddy! We have a strict "no cheese" policy - those who try to break it wind up feeding the trolls.
 


kk14

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Don't the citizens need to be able to
a) pinpoint the Rogue's location/square in order to target him?
b) be within the legal range for their weapon? (i.e. 40 squares)

Very gamey, either way.
 

keterys

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To be slightly more informative:
This doesn't work, because in the DMG it talks about abilities that affect 'allies' and notes those abilities don't work on the nameless teeming masses of a town and should be curtailed to basically a party's worth of folks and occasionally 1 or 2 other guys. Ie, the warlord can't give all of his allies (100 guys) a free attack, nor can eagle summons the fire work on random guys back in town. They just don't count as allies when they're not actually around nor part of the party.

It's right with the bit about not allowing stuff that requires a hit to trigger on rats, and all that.
 

DracoSuave

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Have they cleared up what Eagle Summons the Fire does?

Also, using a paragon path ability + an army of peasents isn't terribly useful compared to:

Bring a paragon level party.
 

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