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<blockquote data-quote="Anubis" data-source="post: 350169" data-attributes="member: 2358"><p>Intensify Spell stacks with Enhance Spell. The note about it not being allowed to stack with other feats that change the numeric effects of the spell applies only to Empower Spell, as far as I know. Enhance Spell raises the cap, Energy Admixture adds to it, and Twin Spell casts it twice, and so none of them effect the numeric values directly. So that combination is indeed possible.</p><p></p><p>As for Improved Metamagic . . . You haven't been around these boards very long, have you? Although this is the first time I've seen a power spell like this doing that much damage without Empower Spell, the problem is still the same. Improved Metamagic. There have been several HUGE debates on this subject, most of them started by me because of balance concerns.</p><p></p><p>Are you wanting to go by the LETTER of the rules, which would destroy all balance within your campaign, utterly and irrevokably, or do you want to go with the House Rule that actually adds balance and makes much more sense?</p><p></p><p>If you go by the letter of the rules, whether it is the intent of the rules or not, then Improved Metamagic will reduce the level of that mammoth spell to a 12th-level spell. If you use this, however, you will be giving up any and all balance your campaign may or may not have, and you'll eventually have to start over from scratch, GUARANTEED.</p><p></p><p>The way to balance Improved Metamagic, without removing it from the game, is to have the feat modify only the FINAL spell level, not every single feat in it. That would make this power surge a 27th-level spell, and much more balanced. You would not be able to cast this spell until Level 56 MINIMUM because, don't forget, you must take Enhance Spell multiple times to stack it, and Improved Metamagic can't be taken until Level 27 to begin with, and you've have to take Improved Spell Capacity 18 times.</p><p></p><p>Do as you wish. This was a HUGE mistake on the part of the designers, allowing Improved Metamagic to work the way they do. DO NOT USE IT. If you do, you're campaign is dust. Use the House Rule I gave you or you WILL regret it. You've been warned.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Anubis, post: 350169, member: 2358"] Intensify Spell stacks with Enhance Spell. The note about it not being allowed to stack with other feats that change the numeric effects of the spell applies only to Empower Spell, as far as I know. Enhance Spell raises the cap, Energy Admixture adds to it, and Twin Spell casts it twice, and so none of them effect the numeric values directly. So that combination is indeed possible. As for Improved Metamagic . . . You haven't been around these boards very long, have you? Although this is the first time I've seen a power spell like this doing that much damage without Empower Spell, the problem is still the same. Improved Metamagic. There have been several HUGE debates on this subject, most of them started by me because of balance concerns. Are you wanting to go by the LETTER of the rules, which would destroy all balance within your campaign, utterly and irrevokably, or do you want to go with the House Rule that actually adds balance and makes much more sense? If you go by the letter of the rules, whether it is the intent of the rules or not, then Improved Metamagic will reduce the level of that mammoth spell to a 12th-level spell. If you use this, however, you will be giving up any and all balance your campaign may or may not have, and you'll eventually have to start over from scratch, GUARANTEED. The way to balance Improved Metamagic, without removing it from the game, is to have the feat modify only the FINAL spell level, not every single feat in it. That would make this power surge a 27th-level spell, and much more balanced. You would not be able to cast this spell until Level 56 MINIMUM because, don't forget, you must take Enhance Spell multiple times to stack it, and Improved Metamagic can't be taken until Level 27 to begin with, and you've have to take Improved Spell Capacity 18 times. Do as you wish. This was a HUGE mistake on the part of the designers, allowing Improved Metamagic to work the way they do. DO NOT USE IT. If you do, you're campaign is dust. Use the House Rule I gave you or you WILL regret it. You've been warned. [/QUOTE]
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