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<blockquote data-quote="Creamsteak" data-source="post: 1032464" data-attributes="member: 552"><p><strong><span style="color: white">Welcome back, everyone:</span></strong></p><p><span style="font-size: 9px">brunoaraujo@resenet.com.br, <a href="mailto:drake_masters@juno.com">drake_masters@juno.com</a>, <a href="mailto:mcconnellm@missouri.edu">mcconnellm@missouri.edu</a>, <a href="mailto:TN123086@aol.com">TN123086@aol.com</a>, <a href="mailto:Motorbattery@aol.com">Motorbattery@aol.com</a>, <a href="mailto:malroth00@yahoo.com">malroth00@yahoo.com</a>, <a href="mailto:maiko_ekisha@yahoo.com">maiko_ekisha@yahoo.com</a>, <a href="mailto:hierarch_leviticus@hotmail.com">hierarch_leviticus@hotmail.com</a>, <a href="mailto:jynxterlynx21@hotmail.com">jynxterlynx21@hotmail.com</a>, <a href="mailto:reaver_13@hotmail.com">reaver_13@hotmail.com</a>, <a href="mailto:akomainyu@hotmail.com">akomainyu@hotmail.com</a>, <a href="mailto:jedigh@rcn.com">jedigh@rcn.com</a>, <a 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href="mailto:Sephiroth2@vampirethemasquerade.com">Sephiroth2@vampirethemasquerade.com</a></span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: white">For those of you that are not sure what your looking at, just yet, allow me to explain. About two years ago, I think, I went looking over the internet for a website that was devoted to Final Fantasy role-playing games. I found the returners, which is a percentile based game that copies final fantasy's mechanics and fundamentals quite well. I also found a website that insisted that they had a Tactics RPG, but it happened to be a much more war-game like system. I think I may have also stumbled upon Kamikaze Midget's website, which wasn't nearly as informative as it now is. I decided that I'd have to do it myself...</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: white">Well, my work came to three seperate results. The best of which was <a href="http://creamsteak.homestead.com/files/FFT_D20__PDF__0.1.pdf" target="_blank">this</a> (also hosted <a href="http://www.nuklearpower.com/8bitmedia/FFT_D20.pdf" target="_blank">here</a>). I was proud that Brian posted my little piece on his website, which was nice of him and I love him for it, but really the only reason I posted the incomplete work was to attract help. Most of you that are reading this have come from that motion to attract some prospective aids. I tried to cut the crop down and ended up with about 3 people that I actively worked with. Sadly one of them dissappeared completely, another stayed on but eventually our ideas were too different, and the third is still with us today.</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: white">I've decided that it's about time I get my sorry self out of my slump (albeit very late, I've had the last two months to do this), and get to work. But, problem is, all my work seems rather crappy at this point. I've decided that FFTD20 doesn't work. FFD20, however, is stronger. A system of tiered prestige classes works for a video game, but not a role-playing game. Role-playing games are supposed to move a bit slower, but have a great deal more depth and options, in my experience. So, first off, I'm changing my basic approaches.</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: white">I'm going to start by using the Class/Prestige class system that's used by DnD and a great number of other systems (including the brand new Warcraft RPG, and the Everquest RPG, that I look to as justifications that what I want should be forged). For this, I need to decide which classes (taken from all of the FF games that use classes, those being I, IV, V, VI, and Tactics) are core classes and which are PRCs. I'd like to have 20 classes with 6 racial variants and a number of 'split path' class choices (similar to the 3.5 ranger).</span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: white">So let's work together on this, shall we? No need to get involved if your not interested, and of course I'm very particular and plan to do all the final editing and choosing myself, but I think that the only way I'm going to get what I want, is with others help.</span></p><p></p><p>The first question of the order is about the general set-up of the classes... From memory, the classes in the FF chains are</p><p></p><p>Archer</p><p>Bard</p><p>Berserker</p><p>Black Wizard</p><p>Blue Wizard</p><p>Calculator</p><p>Caller</p><p>Chemist</p><p>Dancer</p><p>Dark Knight</p><p>Dragoon</p><p>Engineer</p><p>Geomancer</p><p>Knight</p><p>Mediator</p><p>Mimic</p><p>Monk</p><p>Mystic Knight</p><p>Ninja</p><p>Oracle</p><p>Paladin</p><p>Red Wizard</p><p>Samurai</p><p>Summoner</p><p>Thief</p><p>Time Wizard</p><p>White Wizard</p><p>Roughly 10 more Unique classes from Final Fantasy Tactics...</p><p>And a Few classes that can be derived from Final Fantasy VI...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So which classes can be folded into each other, which classes are most fitting as Prestige classes, and what other ideas does anyone have. If you have any interesting thoughts, just speak up... but if you would please limit ideas to 1 major idea per post, that would make my replies to you much easier to make.</p></blockquote><p></p>
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[email]paladinofpelor@yahoo.ca[/email], [email]aethernaut@earthlink.net[/email], [email]Sephiroth2@vampirethemasquerade.com[/email][/size] [color=white]For those of you that are not sure what your looking at, just yet, allow me to explain. About two years ago, I think, I went looking over the internet for a website that was devoted to Final Fantasy role-playing games. I found the returners, which is a percentile based game that copies final fantasy's mechanics and fundamentals quite well. I also found a website that insisted that they had a Tactics RPG, but it happened to be a much more war-game like system. I think I may have also stumbled upon Kamikaze Midget's website, which wasn't nearly as informative as it now is. I decided that I'd have to do it myself...[/color] [color=white]Well, my work came to three seperate results. The best of which was [url=http://creamsteak.homestead.com/files/FFT_D20__PDF__0.1.pdf]this[/url] (also hosted [url=www.nuklearpower.com/8bitmedia/FFT_D20.pdf ]here[/url]). I was proud that Brian posted my little piece on his website, which was nice of him and I love him for it, but really the only reason I posted the incomplete work was to attract help. Most of you that are reading this have come from that motion to attract some prospective aids. I tried to cut the crop down and ended up with about 3 people that I actively worked with. Sadly one of them dissappeared completely, another stayed on but eventually our ideas were too different, and the third is still with us today.[/color] [color=white]I've decided that it's about time I get my sorry self out of my slump (albeit very late, I've had the last two months to do this), and get to work. But, problem is, all my work seems rather crappy at this point. I've decided that FFTD20 doesn't work. FFD20, however, is stronger. A system of tiered prestige classes works for a video game, but not a role-playing game. Role-playing games are supposed to move a bit slower, but have a great deal more depth and options, in my experience. So, first off, I'm changing my basic approaches.[/color] [color=white]I'm going to start by using the Class/Prestige class system that's used by DnD and a great number of other systems (including the brand new Warcraft RPG, and the Everquest RPG, that I look to as justifications that what I want should be forged). For this, I need to decide which classes (taken from all of the FF games that use classes, those being I, IV, V, VI, and Tactics) are core classes and which are PRCs. I'd like to have 20 classes with 6 racial variants and a number of 'split path' class choices (similar to the 3.5 ranger).[/color] [color=white]So let's work together on this, shall we? No need to get involved if your not interested, and of course I'm very particular and plan to do all the final editing and choosing myself, but I think that the only way I'm going to get what I want, is with others help.[/color] The first question of the order is about the general set-up of the classes... From memory, the classes in the FF chains are Archer Bard Berserker Black Wizard Blue Wizard Calculator Caller Chemist Dancer Dark Knight Dragoon Engineer Geomancer Knight Mediator Mimic Monk Mystic Knight Ninja Oracle Paladin Red Wizard Samurai Summoner Thief Time Wizard White Wizard Roughly 10 more Unique classes from Final Fantasy Tactics... And a Few classes that can be derived from Final Fantasy VI... So which classes can be folded into each other, which classes are most fitting as Prestige classes, and what other ideas does anyone have. If you have any interesting thoughts, just speak up... but if you would please limit ideas to 1 major idea per post, that would make my replies to you much easier to make. [/QUOTE]
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