Klaus
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Since Fiery Dragon is in Toronto, I don't expect any troubles with Canada Customs for you...I just may have too as well... hopefully Canada Customs plays nice with the taxes & duties...
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[Fiery Dragon] Counter Collection and BattleBox 4e now available
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Since Fiery Dragon is in Toronto, I don't expect any troubles with Canada Customs for you...
You mean I just bought Canadian too? This bundle deal gets better and better.
Great products Klaus - thank you.
Klaus
First Post
All you have to do is step out of the books on this one, Russ.
Send an e-mail to Jason and let him hear of it! Or have them shipped to one of your minions in the US or Canada, and then ask that person to send it to you.
Emryys
Explorer
Since Fiery Dragon is in Toronto, I don't expect any troubles with Canada Customs for you...
Duh!
I hate those CC guys... they always win initiative and I end up dazed and prone...
catsclaw227
First Post
Klaus -- is the Counter Collection 4e also done with the thick die cut counters? Or is this just the PC counters in the battlebox?
Having received my CC4E Heroic box last week, I can tell you that all the counters are on thick die-cut cardboard, making them ultra nice.
My only regret is that I perhaps should have waited a few days to order, until the Battlebox was released, so that I could have taken advantage of the shipping special.
Klaus
First Post
Evil-B:Having received my CC4E Heroic box last week, I can tell you that all the counters are on thick die-cut cardboard, making them ultra nice.
My only regret is that I perhaps should have waited a few days to order, until the Battlebox was released, so that I could have taken advantage of the shipping special.
Please e-mail jasonkempton (at) fierydragon (dot) com and he'll help you out with something.
Fiery Dragon's "counter collection: heroic" mini review
Klaus, I think you did a great job on the art; my hat is off to you, sir. I was kinda sorta worried that they'd look too 'cartoony' for me, but they don't; I think they look awesome.
Alright. I just got back from the post office, with my counter collections in hand. Here is my 'mini review'. NOTE: scroll down about a page for the entire list and quantity of counters included.
The box that the counters comes in is very thick and sturdy. It's a little bit thicker and sturdier than goodman games's dcc "the heroes arise", "saga of the dragon cult", and "dcc 35 gazeteer".
The counters themselves are thick. I got a quarter and a counter from wotc's 4e starter set and compared all three. Both wotc's counter and fiery dragon's counter seem just a hair thinner than the quarter, but I can't see any difference in thickness between either counter.
A sheet of these counters feels a little lighter than the sheet of counters that came with wotc's 4e starter set, but there's more counters on fiery dragon's sheet [and I think that shiny coating on wotc's counters may affect this as well].
There are 15 'pages' of counters:
8 pages of small 1"x1" counters [80 counters/page = 640 small counters]
6 pages of large 2"x2" counters [20 counters/page = 120 large counters]
1 page w/2, huge 3"x3" counters, five large 2"x2" large counters, and a 7"x6" area of bonus dunegon tiles [four 3"x3" and six 1"x1"].
total counters: 767; 640 small, 125 large, 2 huge. [bonus dungeon tiles: 10]
There is no empty whitespace except for the borders on the 'pages'; each page is completely & efficiently used.
also included is a 17"x22" paper battlemat that has a very reflective coating on it.
At the upper far left corner of each 'page', size and level are indicated. For example, on 'page' one, it says, "small and medium - levels 1-2".
At the upper far right corner the 'page' number is given.
The bottom of each 'page' lists the monsters on that page.
The counters are double sided; on the back is the same image with a red border to indicate that it's 'bloodied'. It also shows the name of the creature.
So far, the counters appear to separate easily and without tearing or damaging other connected counters. I will be using zip loc bags to keep them organized by the 'page' they came off of. So, I'll have a bag for 'levels 1-2' 'levels 3-4', etc.
There is an error on 'page' 3/15. Instead of saying "levels 3-4", it says "levels 1-2".
Also on page 3/15, instead of listing the name on the back of each counter, only one of each type is labeled, i.e., instead of each human guard saying "human, guard" on the back, only one does.
Also, on page 11/15, only one ogre is labeled, similar to the error on page 3/15.
Also, page 10/15 doesn't list the monsters on the bottom of the page, nor does it list size and level in the upper left hand corner.
I really think that this product will give many DMs enough variety in one box. If you plan to run very large battles, and/or if you plan to have your PC's fighting large amounts of lower level opponents [34 kobolds of the exact same type, for example], two or more boxes may suit your needs even better.
I believe this product to be a great value for people who don't have a lot of money to spend on minis. Even if you do, I think this product would be a great supplement to your minis collection, using the counters as 'minions' and the plastic minis as 'regulars'.
final score:
construction & art: A++
variety: A++
usefulness: A++
value: A++
I am completely satisfied in all respects with this product.
Here is a breakdown of what counters and how many are on each 'page':
page 1/15, levels 1-2
beetle, fire x3
drake, spiretop x3
goblin, blackblade x4
goblin, cutter x7
goblin, warrior x3
halfling, slinger x2
kobold, minion x8
kobold, skirmisher x3
kobold, slinger x3
rat, dire x4
rat, giant x8
scorpion, stormclaw x4
skeleton, decrepit x8
stirge x4
drake, guard x4
drake, needlefang swarm x4
elf, archer x3
elf, scout x3
gnome, skulk x2
page 2/15, levels 2-3
goblin, sharpshooter x3
halfling, stout x8
halfling, thief x3
homonculus, clay scout x2
human, bandit x4
human, rabble x8
hyena x4
kobold, dragonshield x3
kruthik, hatchling x8
kroothik [sic], young x4
rat, swarm x3
wolf, gray x4
zombie x5
bat, shadowhunter x4
devil, imp x1 [4 itty bitty imps on one counter]
doppleganger, sneak x3
drake, pseudodragon x2
drake, spitting x3
gnome, arcanist x2
goblin, hexer x2
goblin, skullcleaver x4
page 3/15, levels 3-4 [labeled levels 1-2; note:not all counters labeled on the back]
goblin, hobgoblin archer x4
goblin, hobgoblin grunt x8
goblin, hobgoblin soldier x4
goblin, hobgoblin warcaster x3
homonculus, iron defender x3
human, guard x4
kobold, wyrmpriest x3
lycanthrope, wererat x3
orc, raider x4
skeleton x4
gravehound, zombie x4
zombie, rotter x8
choker, cavern x2
dark creeper x4
dwarf, bolter x3
ettercap, fang guard x3
ghost, phantom warrior x3
goblin, underboss x2
human, beserker x3
human, mage x2
kobold, slyblade x3
kroothick [sic], adult x3
page 4/15, levels 4-5
lizardfolk, greenscale hunter x4
magma beast, claw x3
magma beast, hurler x3
orc, beserker x4
orc, drudge x8
panther, fey x3
spider, deathjump x4
warborn, soldier x4 [could be used for warforged]
wight, deathlock x3
zombie, corruption corpse x3
zombie, rotwing x4
bat, fire x4
dragonborn, soldier x3
dwarf, hammerer x3
ettercap, webspinner x3
ghoul x4
gnoll, huntmaster x3
goblin, bugbear warrior x4
goblin, hobgoblin commander x2
lizardfolk, greenscale darter x3
orc, eye of rage x2
skeleton, blazing x3
page 5/15, levels 5-6
skeleton, boneshard x4
ogdoad, tadpole x4
snake, deathrattle viper x3
vampire spawn, fleshripper x8
vine horror x3
wight x4
wraith x4
bear, cave x4
demon, slaughter x4
devil, horde grunt x8
devil, spiked x4
gnoll, clawfighter x4
gnoll, marauder x4
goblin, bugbear strangler x3
halfling, prowler x3
harpy x4
homonculus, iron cobra x3
hound, shadow x4
lizardfolk, marsh mystic x2
sharkin, guard x3 [could be used for sahuagin]
page 6/15, levels 6-7
sharkin, guard x4
sharkin, raider x4
shadowkin, chainfighter x4 [could be used for shadar-kai]
shadowkin, gloomblade x4
shapeshifter, longfang hunter x3
tiefling, heretic x3
troglodyte, mauler x4
warborn, captain x2
wraith, mad x4
zombie, chillborn x4
eladrin, fey knight x4
grell x3
grick x4
hag, howling x3
hound, hell x4
orc, bloodrager x4
undeath, crimson acolyte x4
satyr, rake x3
shadowkin, witch x3
shapeshifter, razorpaw stalker x3
bloodweb swarm x3
page 7/15, levels7-8
stirge, dire x4
tiefling, darkblade x3
troglodyte, impaler x4
vine horror, spellfiend x3
illujan, serpentongue initiate x8 [could be used for yuan-ti]
angel, valor x3
beetle, rot scarab swarm x3
caliban, hellblade x3 [could be used for cambion]
doppleganger, assassin x3
eladrin, twilight incanter x3
firecranium x1 [4 itty bitty skulls on one counter]
foulspawn, grue x4
foulspawn, mangler x4
galeb duhr x3
ghost, trap haunt x2
gnoll, demonic scourge x2
goblin, hobgoblin warrior x2
goblin, hobgoblin hand of tyranny x6
lycanthrope, werewolf x3
mummy, guardian x3
orc, chieftan x2
sharkin, priest x3
satyr, piper x2
shadowkin, warrior x2
troglodyte, curse chanter x2
illujan, serpentongue warrior x2
page 8/15, levels 9-10
devil, succubus x3
dryad x3
foulspawn, berserker x4
gargoyle x4
harpy, bloodfire x4
orc, warrior x8
undeath, deathpriest of undeath x2
panther, spectral x3
quickling, runner x3
snake, flame x4
wight, battle x3
illujan, serpentongue assassin x3
berbalang x3
dark creeper, dark stalker x3
dragonborn, gladiator x3
gibbering mouther x2
hag, bog x3
medusa, female archer x3
minotaur, warrior x4
sharkin, baron x2
skeleton, skeletal tomb guardian x4
skull lord x3
vampire spawn, bloodhunter x6
page 9/15, levels 1-5
horse, riding horse x4
dragon, young white x1
horse, warhorse x4
ooze, ochre jelly x2
crocodile, visejaw x2
dragon, young black x1
beetle, tangler x2
dragon, young green x1
drake, rage x3
page 10/15, levels 1-5
griffon, hippogriff x3
griffon, hippogriff dreadmount x3
wolf, dire x3
boar, dire x3
dragon, young blue x1
kroothick [sic], hive lord x2
lizardfolk, blackscale bruiser x3
page 11/15, levels 7-8 [note: only one ogre is labeled on the back]
behemoth, macetail x2
carrion crawler x2
dragon, young red x1
griffon x3
hyena, cacklefiend x3
odious x2 [could be used for otyugh]
demon, borgoutan x2
ogre, savage x5
page 12/15, levels 9-9
ogre, skirmisher x3
oni, night haunter x2
ursidowl x2 [could be used for owlbear]
zombie, hulk x3
behemoth, bloodspike x3
bulette, x2
destrachan x2
displacer panther x3
page 13/15, level 9
dragon, adult white x1
grick, alpha x2
shambling mound x3
snake, crushgrip constrictor x3
troll x5
unicorn x2
worg x4
page 14/15, level 10
basilisk, venom eye x2
chuul x3
ettin, marauder x4
horse, celestial charger x3
magma beast, strider x3
manticore x3
oni, mage x2
page 15/15, level 10
crocodile, feymire x2 [huge]
spider, blade x3
wyvern, x2
Klaus, I think you did a great job on the art; my hat is off to you, sir. I was kinda sorta worried that they'd look too 'cartoony' for me, but they don't; I think they look awesome.
Alright. I just got back from the post office, with my counter collections in hand. Here is my 'mini review'. NOTE: scroll down about a page for the entire list and quantity of counters included.
The box that the counters comes in is very thick and sturdy. It's a little bit thicker and sturdier than goodman games's dcc "the heroes arise", "saga of the dragon cult", and "dcc 35 gazeteer".
The counters themselves are thick. I got a quarter and a counter from wotc's 4e starter set and compared all three. Both wotc's counter and fiery dragon's counter seem just a hair thinner than the quarter, but I can't see any difference in thickness between either counter.
A sheet of these counters feels a little lighter than the sheet of counters that came with wotc's 4e starter set, but there's more counters on fiery dragon's sheet [and I think that shiny coating on wotc's counters may affect this as well].
There are 15 'pages' of counters:
8 pages of small 1"x1" counters [80 counters/page = 640 small counters]
6 pages of large 2"x2" counters [20 counters/page = 120 large counters]
1 page w/2, huge 3"x3" counters, five large 2"x2" large counters, and a 7"x6" area of bonus dunegon tiles [four 3"x3" and six 1"x1"].
total counters: 767; 640 small, 125 large, 2 huge. [bonus dungeon tiles: 10]
There is no empty whitespace except for the borders on the 'pages'; each page is completely & efficiently used.
also included is a 17"x22" paper battlemat that has a very reflective coating on it.
At the upper far left corner of each 'page', size and level are indicated. For example, on 'page' one, it says, "small and medium - levels 1-2".
At the upper far right corner the 'page' number is given.
The bottom of each 'page' lists the monsters on that page.
The counters are double sided; on the back is the same image with a red border to indicate that it's 'bloodied'. It also shows the name of the creature.
So far, the counters appear to separate easily and without tearing or damaging other connected counters. I will be using zip loc bags to keep them organized by the 'page' they came off of. So, I'll have a bag for 'levels 1-2' 'levels 3-4', etc.
There is an error on 'page' 3/15. Instead of saying "levels 3-4", it says "levels 1-2".
Also on page 3/15, instead of listing the name on the back of each counter, only one of each type is labeled, i.e., instead of each human guard saying "human, guard" on the back, only one does.
Also, on page 11/15, only one ogre is labeled, similar to the error on page 3/15.
Also, page 10/15 doesn't list the monsters on the bottom of the page, nor does it list size and level in the upper left hand corner.
I really think that this product will give many DMs enough variety in one box. If you plan to run very large battles, and/or if you plan to have your PC's fighting large amounts of lower level opponents [34 kobolds of the exact same type, for example], two or more boxes may suit your needs even better.
I believe this product to be a great value for people who don't have a lot of money to spend on minis. Even if you do, I think this product would be a great supplement to your minis collection, using the counters as 'minions' and the plastic minis as 'regulars'.
final score:
construction & art: A++
variety: A++
usefulness: A++
value: A++
I am completely satisfied in all respects with this product.
Here is a breakdown of what counters and how many are on each 'page':
page 1/15, levels 1-2
beetle, fire x3
drake, spiretop x3
goblin, blackblade x4
goblin, cutter x7
goblin, warrior x3
halfling, slinger x2
kobold, minion x8
kobold, skirmisher x3
kobold, slinger x3
rat, dire x4
rat, giant x8
scorpion, stormclaw x4
skeleton, decrepit x8
stirge x4
drake, guard x4
drake, needlefang swarm x4
elf, archer x3
elf, scout x3
gnome, skulk x2
page 2/15, levels 2-3
goblin, sharpshooter x3
halfling, stout x8
halfling, thief x3
homonculus, clay scout x2
human, bandit x4
human, rabble x8
hyena x4
kobold, dragonshield x3
kruthik, hatchling x8
kroothik [sic], young x4
rat, swarm x3
wolf, gray x4
zombie x5
bat, shadowhunter x4
devil, imp x1 [4 itty bitty imps on one counter]
doppleganger, sneak x3
drake, pseudodragon x2
drake, spitting x3
gnome, arcanist x2
goblin, hexer x2
goblin, skullcleaver x4
page 3/15, levels 3-4 [labeled levels 1-2; note:not all counters labeled on the back]
goblin, hobgoblin archer x4
goblin, hobgoblin grunt x8
goblin, hobgoblin soldier x4
goblin, hobgoblin warcaster x3
homonculus, iron defender x3
human, guard x4
kobold, wyrmpriest x3
lycanthrope, wererat x3
orc, raider x4
skeleton x4
gravehound, zombie x4
zombie, rotter x8
choker, cavern x2
dark creeper x4
dwarf, bolter x3
ettercap, fang guard x3
ghost, phantom warrior x3
goblin, underboss x2
human, beserker x3
human, mage x2
kobold, slyblade x3
kroothick [sic], adult x3
page 4/15, levels 4-5
lizardfolk, greenscale hunter x4
magma beast, claw x3
magma beast, hurler x3
orc, beserker x4
orc, drudge x8
panther, fey x3
spider, deathjump x4
warborn, soldier x4 [could be used for warforged
]wight, deathlock x3
zombie, corruption corpse x3
zombie, rotwing x4
bat, fire x4
dragonborn, soldier x3
dwarf, hammerer x3
ettercap, webspinner x3
ghoul x4
gnoll, huntmaster x3
goblin, bugbear warrior x4
goblin, hobgoblin commander x2
lizardfolk, greenscale darter x3
orc, eye of rage x2
skeleton, blazing x3
page 5/15, levels 5-6
skeleton, boneshard x4
ogdoad, tadpole x4
snake, deathrattle viper x3
vampire spawn, fleshripper x8
vine horror x3
wight x4
wraith x4
bear, cave x4
demon, slaughter x4
devil, horde grunt x8
devil, spiked x4
gnoll, clawfighter x4
gnoll, marauder x4
goblin, bugbear strangler x3
halfling, prowler x3
harpy x4
homonculus, iron cobra x3
hound, shadow x4
lizardfolk, marsh mystic x2
sharkin, guard x3 [could be used for sahuagin
]page 6/15, levels 6-7
sharkin, guard x4
sharkin, raider x4
shadowkin, chainfighter x4 [could be used for shadar-kai
]shadowkin, gloomblade x4
shapeshifter, longfang hunter x3
tiefling, heretic x3
troglodyte, mauler x4
warborn, captain x2
wraith, mad x4
zombie, chillborn x4
eladrin, fey knight x4
grell x3
grick x4
hag, howling x3
hound, hell x4
orc, bloodrager x4
undeath, crimson acolyte x4
satyr, rake x3
shadowkin, witch x3
shapeshifter, razorpaw stalker x3
bloodweb swarm x3
page 7/15, levels7-8
stirge, dire x4
tiefling, darkblade x3
troglodyte, impaler x4
vine horror, spellfiend x3
illujan, serpentongue initiate x8 [could be used for yuan-ti
]angel, valor x3
beetle, rot scarab swarm x3
caliban, hellblade x3 [could be used for cambion
]doppleganger, assassin x3
eladrin, twilight incanter x3
firecranium x1 [4 itty bitty skulls on one counter]
foulspawn, grue x4
foulspawn, mangler x4
galeb duhr x3
ghost, trap haunt x2
gnoll, demonic scourge x2
goblin, hobgoblin warrior x2
goblin, hobgoblin hand of tyranny x6
lycanthrope, werewolf x3
mummy, guardian x3
orc, chieftan x2
sharkin, priest x3
satyr, piper x2
shadowkin, warrior x2
troglodyte, curse chanter x2
illujan, serpentongue warrior x2
page 8/15, levels 9-10
devil, succubus x3
dryad x3
foulspawn, berserker x4
gargoyle x4
harpy, bloodfire x4
orc, warrior x8
undeath, deathpriest of undeath x2
panther, spectral x3
quickling, runner x3
snake, flame x4
wight, battle x3
illujan, serpentongue assassin x3
berbalang x3
dark creeper, dark stalker x3
dragonborn, gladiator x3
gibbering mouther x2
hag, bog x3
medusa, female archer x3
minotaur, warrior x4
sharkin, baron x2
skeleton, skeletal tomb guardian x4
skull lord x3
vampire spawn, bloodhunter x6
page 9/15, levels 1-5
horse, riding horse x4
dragon, young white x1
horse, warhorse x4
ooze, ochre jelly x2
crocodile, visejaw x2
dragon, young black x1
beetle, tangler x2
dragon, young green x1
drake, rage x3
page 10/15, levels 1-5
griffon, hippogriff x3
griffon, hippogriff dreadmount x3
wolf, dire x3
boar, dire x3
dragon, young blue x1
kroothick [sic], hive lord x2
lizardfolk, blackscale bruiser x3
page 11/15, levels 7-8 [note: only one ogre is labeled on the back]
behemoth, macetail x2
carrion crawler x2
dragon, young red x1
griffon x3
hyena, cacklefiend x3
odious x2 [could be used for otyugh
]demon, borgoutan x2
ogre, savage x5
page 12/15, levels 9-9
ogre, skirmisher x3
oni, night haunter x2
ursidowl x2 [could be used for owlbear
]zombie, hulk x3
behemoth, bloodspike x3
bulette, x2
destrachan x2
displacer panther x3
page 13/15, level 9
dragon, adult white x1
grick, alpha x2
shambling mound x3
snake, crushgrip constrictor x3
troll x5
unicorn x2
worg x4
page 14/15, level 10
basilisk, venom eye x2
chuul x3
ettin, marauder x4
horse, celestial charger x3
magma beast, strider x3
manticore x3
oni, mage x2
page 15/15, level 10
crocodile, feymire x2 [huge]
spider, blade x3
wyvern, x2
calimedic911
Explorer
if customs is an issue, have them shipped to one of the places at Pt Roberts and drive up and pick them up... 30 mins form VancouverI just may have too as well... hopefully Canada Customs plays nice with the taxes & duties...
Sean B (former Pt Roberts Resident)
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