Gaming W/Jemal: Planar Quest! (Closed)

[Binder Fred]

Any suggestions for Mei Ying? Inside the force dome, all she can do is buff the boomball or cast spells on herself or her companion in crime.

Well, depending on Jemal's interpretation, if Gerard's spell works she could theoretically do the same and use anything that isn't actually described as crossing the dome -- such as Flame Strike (everybody presently visible is at least 15' away from Wade), TK, Resilient Sphere, Analyze Dweomer, etc, etc... What did she end up choosing for her final 8th level spell by the way (not updated on the RG)? Anything summon-y?

 

[Shayuri]

No, it's that variation on Pmorph Any Object that Jemal and I worked out.

And a Wall of Force blocks line of effect, even if not line of sight. She could teleport out, but that would defeat the purpose of having created it...to shield us while we charge the blaster bomb.

The force sword is stuck in there too.

...

Wow, yeah, this RG version is old. I'll update that.

 

[Scott DeWar]

So Mord's sword fails to work.

 

[Jemal]

I'll have to look it up but I believe mords sword can be summoned within line of sight, not line of effect. When you're dealing with force walls it's a very important distinction. Line of Sight effects can pass through, line of effect cant. I used to play an epic level force mage for a couple years, wish I still had my spell list lol.

 

[Binder Fred]

I changed my target [since] I can't target the elemental [with Benign Transposition]

Would you consider allowing it just this once, [MENTION=9026]Jemal[/MENTION]? Just for the awesome coolness of it?

 

[Shayuri]

But...it's not cool. The elemental can't fit in there. Even if it can, it can't fight. And even if it could fit, and could fight, Wade can easily just leave...leaving it trapped in there. We have to nullify that teleportation of his before we can really use this wall of force to trap him, whether we trap him inside or out.

And Mei's got Wade in a bind right now. It can fight her...but if it does, Mei will Dimension Anchor his butt next turn. If it leaves, then it gets the old one-two from the giant elemental meatshield...AND Mei can pop out and D-anchor him while he's outside...then pop Ger back in.

Plus, I still don't think you can target Mei with Transposition while she's behind a wall of force. I should probably read the spell desc before I insist on that too hard though.

Anyway...assuming it's ruled legal, you can try. Mei will refuse the spell though, if she has an option to.

 

[Binder Fred]

Anyway...assuming it's ruled legal, you can try. Mei will refuse the spell though, if she has an option to.

We could argue the other points (even if it can't move so long as *Wade* can't move either, we don't know (IC) that Wade can teleport more than once or say, when Pinned under/by a Huge elemental, Force Wall is Dispelable at will even if he can, and yes, I *still* think a Huge elemental squeezed into a force fishbowl is both funny AND cool ), but you've got the master argument right there, Shayuri. I bow in your general direction.

 

[D'Raven]

It is a teleport effect, does not require line of effect, by the wording it doesn't even require line of sight. If something was said before his action he would have done something different. The rest of the party have worked together in the past so some amount of table talk is reasonable, but any planing with Darrian would need to be in character.

And the elemental can fit, it can fight, it would simply take penalties. A person takes up a 5' square, but we are not 5' blocks. The penalties are there to show the difficulty for not having room to move around and dodge.

 

[Scott DeWar]

.. .. .. .. ..and yes, I *still* think a Huge elemental squeezed into a force fishbowl is both funny AND cool ),

agree!

but you've got the master argument right there, Shayuri. I bow in your general direction.

that would be south west for you.

 

[Shayuri]

Draven, of course. I don't hold it against you in the least OOC.

Similarly, I apologize on behalf of Mei-Ying as well...I don't mean to just stomp all over your strategy and ideas. Mei just has her own idea, and swapping places with her elemental isn't part of it. In the future, I'm sure we'll be able to make very good use of tactics like this though.