Half-golem Magic Immunity

[Cheiromancer]

Monster Manual II, page 209; also on the WotC web-site here.

Creatures who succeed in the will save do not get construct traits; do they get magic immunity?

Does it strike anyone that immunity to all magic and supernatural effects is immensely powerful? I think Upper_Krust pegs it as worth 10 character levels.

True, it cramps the style of wizards and sorcerers a lot (-6 in their spellcasting stat is nasty), but evil half-golem clerics seem to be quite a bit scarier than the CR+3 would indicate.

Anyone know what the LA is of these things? Usually LA adjustment for a template is twice the CR bonus; but I'm not sure +6 is enough.

 

[Kae'Yoss]

Magic immunity isn't a "construct trait". Not all constructs gain magic immunity.

 

[Cheiromancer]

So they get magic immunity even if they make the save?

I guess that makes sense. Otherwise it is hard to see why the change in CR would be +3 whether or not the save was made.

What LA would you peg the half-golem at?

 

[herald]

So they get magic immunity even if they make the save?

I guess that makes sense. Otherwise it is hard to see why the change in CR would be +3 whether or not the save was made.

What LA would you peg the half-golem at?

I'd say that they don't get Magic Immunity unless they got the rest of the construct traits. Otherwise your game balance is going to be wacky. Spell resistance seems more likely.

I think that it might make more sense if this template was done more as a Savage Species Monster Class.

 

[James McMurray]

Check WotC's 3.5 update booklet. It probably has an LA for the template.

 

[Kae'Yoss]

So they get magic immunity even if they make the save?

I guess that makes sense. Otherwise it is hard to see why the change in CR would be +3 whether or not the save was made.

What LA would you peg the half-golem at?

The way I read it, alignment, type (and associated traits) and Con score are the only things that are different whether you make the save or fail it.

The 3.5 update manual states LA -, which means that they aren't meant for characters, or their LA would be to high for non-epic games. The letter may very well be the case, since magic immunity is extremely useful, and the other stuff isn't bad, either

 

[Sam Gross]

Keep in mind that Magic Immunity also means no magic healing. No potions, no friendly Cure spells. As an adventure progresses, your HP slowly depletes with no way to circumvent it. Afterward, you're taking weeks or months of downtime in full bed rest for ordinary healing. Not so overpowered afterall.