Heroes #22:Turn And Face The Strange/Season 3/2009

[Psionicist]

The more I see of volume 4 the more I like Angela. She’s the only hero this season that actually radiates an aura of power. The other heroes (as well as Sylar) I can actually see getting killed somehow, but not Angela.

Actually, any of you remember that Simpson episode with the pretzels? It ends with a fight between two asian gangs. Homer makes some comments about a little white ninja that just stands there while the rest are fighting. And then BAM (but Homer of course misses it).

Anyone else feel this way?

 

[Brown Jenkin]

As an introduction, I just want to say that this review may be biased based on my response to this week's House. The short version is I agreed with the message, but hated the ham-fisted way with which the aftermath was written, and didn't like (MAJOR SPOILER)

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that my favorite character was killed off, while my least favorite character (Thirteen) was not

. So I was already in a bit of a cranky mood going into Heroes tonight.

I was shocked by what House did as well. Never expected them to go there quite that way. Now that was pushing the envelope. Heroes could learn a few things from House and the Sarah Connor Chronicles about how to deal with characters for dramatic effect and how to have that effect have real implications on the characters.

 

[drothgery]

I still maintain that the biggest problem Heroes has is, and has always been, that the writers need to be beaten over the head with the basic notion that superheroes and horror do not mix.

 

[F5]

While I agree that would be tremendously unsatisfactory, Matt + Ando could result in Matt being able to wipe away the memory of that incident from everyone.

I wouldn't see that as a re-set, actually, I'd kind of like to see that happen. Provided there was some reasonable reason given that he couldn't just do this all the time, why not use their powers to get out of an otherwise un-solvable dilemma? It's superhero-y. Even better if there were some interesting ramifications for going in and messing with the memories of everyone in the DC area.

The more I see of volume 4 the more I like Angela. She’s the only hero this season that actually radiates an aura of power. The other heroes (as well as Sylar) I can actually see getting killed somehow, but not Angela.

I agree Angela's been good this season, but I don't agree with your conclusion. She radiates faded power; she's been humbled. My guess is that Angela's going down in flames at the end of this season, spectacularly, and she's going to take Sylar and Danko down with her.

 

[Krug]

Mixed feelings about this ep. Hiro and Ando with their cute helpless act again. Painful to watch. I thought HRG would be too experienced to get played by Sylar twice, but ...

The payoff for what they're digging up better be worth it.

PS: The East European chick that's Danko's client/gf is in the latest ep of Supernatural as well. Coincidence..

 

[coyote6]

My second is that we've never seen someone with regeneration be able to control it;

FWIW, I don't think he did control his regeneration, per se. Sylar said something like, "I squeezed some extra blood out" -- I think that meant that he used his telekinesis to literally squeeze more blood out, and keep the wound open. That's how I interpreted it, at least; and I thought that was an awesome idea.

I actually liked this episode more than the last couple. Probably mainly because Danko got played like a fiddle by both Sylar and Matt, and I am definitely in the "Danko must die" camp. However, I thought the whole "he's really lonely and just wants to be loved (by hot Russian 'escorts')" added a whole new level of lameness to his character, thus increasing the "must die" quotient.

I thought Bennett was a bit stupid the way he got played, but it was believable to me -- his family life has already been established as one of his weak points, so manipulating him that way worked for me. That said, I'm not sure why he didn't shoot the goons and then shoot Danko; he's not previously been terribly scrupulous. But, feeling generous, I'll chalk it up to shock at being completely pwned.

I really must've been in a better mood, 'cause the Hiro & Ando comedy show didn't bug me too much (I thought the Japanese-Texan truck driver was kind of amusing). Perhaps more importantly, they got where they were going. OTOH, the "baby magically knows its daddy" seemed a bit much; but hey, maybe the kid's telepathic, too, and really does know his daddy. Probably not; probably just sentimental stuff, prepatory to getting Matt back together with his wife.

So, Coyote Flats -- what's with the mass graves full of bullet-to-the-head executions? A case of, "Yeah, we tried this 'kill 'em all' thing early on, and it didn't work out so well"? Even if that's it, I'm not seeing how it helps them with the current situation. Was Danko's daddy an early victim or something? I really hope Danko's not going to turn out to be a Petrelli cousin or the like.

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

So, Coyote Flats -- what's with the mass graves full of bullet-to-the-head executions? A case of, "Yeah, we tried this 'kill 'em all' thing early on, and it didn't work out so well"? Even if that's it, I'm not seeing how it helps them with the current situation. Was Danko's daddy an early victim or something? I really hope Danko's not going to turn out to be a Petrelli cousin or the like.

Well, coyote6, they certainly don't want a coyote2. Even if this means you will never exist...

I think the goal might be to show that there was already a government operation of this type. After it, the company was founded to keep track of "heroes" - protect those that are harmless and take down those that are dangerous - before the government starts a new program to kill them all.
Maybe they hope to use this and present it to the public (or at least some senators) to stop the hero-catching organization and find a better way to deal with it..

That's at least my hypothesis at the moment.

 

[PhoenixDarkDirk]

I think something that would upset Danko would be someone injecting him with that power-granting formula.

 

[Mark]

I think something that would upset Danko would be someone injecting him with that power-granting formula.

It might be what he has been after all along.

 

[coyote6]

I think the power-granting formula is probably gone for more-or-less good; it was the Plot MacGuffin of that volume, and like most Star Trek technobabble solutions, after its time on the stage, it won't be heard of again.

Oh, I remembered one thing that bugged me about the last ep -- suddenly, Suresh has turned up new info that his dad had. Wait, he's lived in that apartment for how many years, and the landlord never said, 'Hey, you want to take care of this junk?"

It strikes me as a clumsy, clunky way to try to too-literally go back to first season, just like Matt mysteriously and inexplicably inheriting "draw the future" powers (which haven't been mentioned since). It's like someone sent a memo: "What did we do in the season everyone loved? Sylar was the bad guy; we had painting of future things; and Suresh had his dad's notes. We'll do all those things again!"