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<blockquote data-quote="Kithas" data-source="post: 6795578" data-attributes="member: 97587"><p>Ah I see, then Bard is definitely my recommendation. With both detect magic and identify as spells(IIRC they can ritual-cast these), options like expertise and the fact that they get the most and most diverse skills of any class you have tons of out-of-combat options. Plus with Cha as really the only stat that maters for you that translates well into being the face of the party. If you don't have a race in mind half-elves get bonuses to cha and get even more skills.</p><p></p><p>Basically in 5e most of your out-of-combat stuff(like 90%-100%) is going to be skill/stat based and not class based. This is why most of my roles revolved around combat. They've really simplified the out-of-combat stuff so most of your customization will be in combat. This means that any class can be the 'Face' or the leader, or the sneak thief, or the brute. Some classes do have an edge from things like expertise and tendency to also want a good stat in those areas but for the most part it is separate.</p><p></p><p>If you're not worried about damage, get one of the great non-combat feats like actor, keen mind Observant etc.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kithas, post: 6795578, member: 97587"] Ah I see, then Bard is definitely my recommendation. With both detect magic and identify as spells(IIRC they can ritual-cast these), options like expertise and the fact that they get the most and most diverse skills of any class you have tons of out-of-combat options. Plus with Cha as really the only stat that maters for you that translates well into being the face of the party. If you don't have a race in mind half-elves get bonuses to cha and get even more skills. Basically in 5e most of your out-of-combat stuff(like 90%-100%) is going to be skill/stat based and not class based. This is why most of my roles revolved around combat. They've really simplified the out-of-combat stuff so most of your customization will be in combat. This means that any class can be the 'Face' or the leader, or the sneak thief, or the brute. Some classes do have an edge from things like expertise and tendency to also want a good stat in those areas but for the most part it is separate. If you're not worried about damage, get one of the great non-combat feats like actor, keen mind Observant etc. [/QUOTE]
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