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<blockquote data-quote="Scurvy_Platypus" data-source="post: 3711523" data-attributes="member: 43283"><p>To an extent, they react the same.</p><p></p><p>I think actually a large part depends on the amount of money fans in general have invested in the game, and how badly the new edition trashes their old stuff. The more money and time people have invested in their stuff, the less likely they are to want to get rid of it.</p><p></p><p>The time invested part is also pretty important. Poking around on forums, I see a surprising number of people that aren't playing, not running, but still buying books. I personally find it pretty bizarre, but I grew up pretty poor so the idea of essentially collecting an rpg book (or game line) is pretty strange to me.</p><p></p><p>There's also an element of "brand loyalty". Over the years I've seen a fair number of disparaging remarks made about fans of Palladium games for example, and how quick fans were to support Palladium. But really, the stampede I see already lining up to buy 4th Ed isn't any different as far as I'm concerned.</p><p></p><p>Of course the single biggest factor I think, is simply the "group" factor. If the group as a whole adopts the new edition, then it's a moot point. For example, if you're not currently playing D&D 3.x and are playing an older version instead, most gamers look down on you. Either you're one of those bitter holdouts, you're into "nostalgia" gaming, or you're some sort of freak they just don't really understand (like those guys that do diceless or cardbased rpgs instead of rolling dice like everyone else).</p><p></p><p>Eventually, a lot of people get tired of being on the fringe of things. They'll either adopt the new system because they can't get other people to play the older one with 'em, or they'll just fade away out of the hobby. People that actively stay _in_ the hobby and continue playing an older version instead of the newer version, are pretty rare in my experience.</p><p></p><p>Poke around, and you can dig up some fantastic flamewars regarding the launch of 3rd Ed. Just listening to folks talk in the game stores or reading their flames online, you'd have thought that 3E was the worst thing in the world and had completely destroyed anything and everything about RPGS that was good. Now it's 7 years later, 4th ed is less than a year away, and you can enjoy being dog-piled if you happen to prefer C&C to d20.</p><p></p><p>Group-think is an extremely powerful thing. As long as the company releasing the new edition can manage to keep a majority (even if it's a slim on) onboard with the new edition, they don't have to worry about it. It sounds kinda stupid and obvious when put that way, but that's all it ever really boils down to...all you need is some sort of a majority, and you can ignore everyone else. They'll either leave, or fall in line with everyone else.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Scurvy_Platypus, post: 3711523, member: 43283"] To an extent, they react the same. I think actually a large part depends on the amount of money fans in general have invested in the game, and how badly the new edition trashes their old stuff. The more money and time people have invested in their stuff, the less likely they are to want to get rid of it. The time invested part is also pretty important. Poking around on forums, I see a surprising number of people that aren't playing, not running, but still buying books. I personally find it pretty bizarre, but I grew up pretty poor so the idea of essentially collecting an rpg book (or game line) is pretty strange to me. There's also an element of "brand loyalty". Over the years I've seen a fair number of disparaging remarks made about fans of Palladium games for example, and how quick fans were to support Palladium. But really, the stampede I see already lining up to buy 4th Ed isn't any different as far as I'm concerned. Of course the single biggest factor I think, is simply the "group" factor. If the group as a whole adopts the new edition, then it's a moot point. For example, if you're not currently playing D&D 3.x and are playing an older version instead, most gamers look down on you. Either you're one of those bitter holdouts, you're into "nostalgia" gaming, or you're some sort of freak they just don't really understand (like those guys that do diceless or cardbased rpgs instead of rolling dice like everyone else). Eventually, a lot of people get tired of being on the fringe of things. They'll either adopt the new system because they can't get other people to play the older one with 'em, or they'll just fade away out of the hobby. People that actively stay _in_ the hobby and continue playing an older version instead of the newer version, are pretty rare in my experience. Poke around, and you can dig up some fantastic flamewars regarding the launch of 3rd Ed. Just listening to folks talk in the game stores or reading their flames online, you'd have thought that 3E was the worst thing in the world and had completely destroyed anything and everything about RPGS that was good. Now it's 7 years later, 4th ed is less than a year away, and you can enjoy being dog-piled if you happen to prefer C&C to d20. Group-think is an extremely powerful thing. As long as the company releasing the new edition can manage to keep a majority (even if it's a slim on) onboard with the new edition, they don't have to worry about it. It sounds kinda stupid and obvious when put that way, but that's all it ever really boils down to...all you need is some sort of a majority, and you can ignore everyone else. They'll either leave, or fall in line with everyone else. [/QUOTE]
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