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Immortal

MadLuke

First Post
Hi to all of you,
is there anybody who can suggest a way to become immortal, other from be un undead?
I'd need an improved Magic jar spell, a Bloodstone of Fistandantilus or something that kind.


However, since I'm the DM, I could easily create whatever I want, but I'd like to know if there's any official way to achieve it.


Bye, MadLuke.
 

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Greenfield

Adventurer
Immortal, as in "won't die of old age"? Or as in "can't be killed except by extraordinary measures"?

The first one is actually easy, for an Epic character. There's an Epic feat called something like "Extra age category" that holds off death by old age.

Alternately, a character could arrange, via allies and/or a pre-set arrangement involving "Craft Contingent Spell" or something similar, to have his aged character die and be Reincarnated. The spell specifies that the new body is a young specimen of the race. With a Limited Wish or similar precaution you could remove the random factor from the racial selection. This one costs you a level each time, but even for a Human, having to re-earn a level every 60 years or so isn't that big a deal. Just make sure the death isn't from old age. If that happens, you're done.

The other version, the one that approaches "can't be killed", probably involves ascension to deity status.

Then there's always the old stand-by: Wish for an instantaneous transformation to something Elemental, Celestial, etc. that doesn't age out.
 

As [MENTION=6669384]Greenfield[/MENTION] mentioned, Reincarnate is the poor man's lichdom. A poorly worded Wish spell could do that too.

If you have a prestige class that changes your type, elemental savant for instance, does that effectively stop your aging? You may also want to consider the Other Worldly Feat.

Do Warforge age?

If you mean "No mortal magic may harm me!" then I think you're going to be stuck with The Power of Plot.
 

Alzrius

The EN World kitten
In the Ravenloft Gazetteer II (a 3.0 book procuded under license with the White Wolf imprint Arthaus) there was a spell called steal vitality that allowed the caster to make one creature (including himself) younger by making another older, essentially draining the life from the target to grant the other person longevity.

The "twist" here was that a recipient of stolen youth from this spell needed more and more with repeated castings to get the same effect. So one casting drained years at a 2:1 ratio (e.g. ten years drained from the victim, making the beneficiary five years younger), for example, while a second casting with the same beneficiary now worked at a 3:1 ratio, etc.
 
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(un)reason

Legend
Become an Elan. (from the Expanded Psionics handbook) The only drawback is that you get reset to 1st level, essentially turning you into a new character, but hey, you now have eternity to build up experience again.
 
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Celebrim

Legend
Everything I can think of...

1) Setting yourself up for a contingent Reincarnation using a wish and some sort of suicide ritual as a last extremity would probably work. Fails if your new form dies prior to being able to reset the system, but otherwise you'd live forever.

2) Put Clones of yourself in stasis/suspended animation, and arrange to have them wake up upon your death. Fails if you run out of Clones before you can reset the system, but otherwise you'd live forever.

3) Concerning your magic jar theory. Put your body in suspended animation after using a magic jar attack to leave it. Arrange to have it woken up if it is ever reoccupied. Cast majic jar from within your new body to keep changing bodies as needed. Works as long as your original body is not found, but there is a slight problem of aging a small amount every time you die violently and wake back up in your original body that you'd have to figure out eventually. Still, 1000's of years of this existence seems reasonable. I'm not sure if this works, but it sounds like it should. If not, your improved magic jar concept should work. The improved magic jar concept seems to be similar to 'The Strange Case of Charles Dexter Ward', and I wouldn't be surprised if there was a 2e Ravenloft Dark Lord with similar concept.

4) Find a way to create and consume a Potion of Youth every few years. Fails if you die a violent death, but staves off old age indefinately. I'm pretty sure the potion exists in earlier editions of D&D - not sure if it is officially in 3e or later.

5) Transform yourself permenently by ritual or wish into a form that doesn't age. Fails if you die a violent death, but otherwise you live forever. Note that for most campaign worlds, becoming a diety falls into this class - deity being only limited protection from violent deaths. Note, depending on your reading of say Greek Myth, it's possible that the Greek dieites actually belong in category #4 above, if in fact they would age if it where not for their continual consumption of Ambrosia.

6) Take one or more Epic feats that makes you ageless regardless of form. Fails if you die a violent death, but easily within the reach of any sufficiently powerful character.

7) In certain settings, it seems like it is possible to place your life/soul either temporarily or permentently in a physical object without becoming a lich. I think Voldemort from Harry Potter is best understood as being a sort of Undead in that setting, but in Neverwhere by Neil Gaimen one of the character's places his life temporarily in a different object and thereby causes his body to able to be rejuvinated/reginerated by returning his life to it. He does this without apparantly being undead, but he does require assistance to ensure that his body and life are reunited. Effectively this is like raising yourself. It's not clear that this protects from old age unless you also become undead however, there is the example of the priest whose 'heart is not in it' from I3 Pyramid. On the other hand, I converted him to 3e as a greater mummy...

7a) In Planescape:Torment, the protagonist seems to have arranged a rather complex and more foolproof variation of the above, the details I won't go into in order to avoid spoilers.

8) You mention Fistandantilius, but you don't mention Beren who seems to be absolutely indestructible in the form of the Green Stone Man. It's not at all clear how you'd arrange to end up in that condition though, as it seems to entirely involve a very non-gamist power of plot assertion. It's worth noting that Harry Potter's condition seems to be rather similar however, with his Mother rather than Sister in the role of the animating/protecting power. I'm not sure whether you'd want to introduce that pattern to your campaign though.
 
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nijineko

Explorer
there is an immortality thread on minmaxboards which covers pretty much every legit 3.x method of gaining unaging up through actual immortality.
 

Dandu

First Post
You could probably pull it off with Astral Projection, assuming your astral form is not slain or dismissed.
 


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