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<blockquote data-quote="Slaadmaster" data-source="post: 4122219" data-attributes="member: 13272"><p>I've been in the same situation as Lord Arameth - been waiting for ages to get my hands on this (finally got the Bestiary a couple of weeks ago as well <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> )! First impressions are very positive: the book looks very visually pleasing and is well-formatted (obviously will be more so with all the art). I'll post some more in depth comments later but on a quick (first) read through I have a couple of questions and mistakes (sorry) to point out (in no particular order). I'm sure some of these have already been answered on some earlier thread.</p><p>1) Firstly, what was the reason for the changing of some of the domains from the SRD versions (such as magic or death)?</p><p>2) In the Stoicism portfolio the Elder and Old One abilties both read ..... Wisdom when they both apply to Constitution; probably just a copy/paste error.</p><p>3) I found that some existing deities would be hard to create using these rules due to the lack of some portfolios or how some portfolios are opposing (what portfolios would be most likely for Helm from FR - stoicism does not seem to really fit). Likewise some of the inherent weaknesses did not make sense to me such as a penalty to Wisdom for the Moon Portfolio. However, with the customisation of these been so easy (thanks to the explanation of the mechanics) this should not be hard to rectify or change.</p><p>4) The metalworking domain does not have a granted ability - error/feature?</p><p>5) How many domains does a deity start with and/or is able to grant to worshippers - 2 or 4? And if it is 4, can they use all of the spells as spell-like abilities or just those to which he has corresponding portfolios?</p><p>5) Would you advise the use of the artifact rules for all epic characters or just immortals?</p><p>6) Would I be correct in thinking that all First Ones have a double portfolio?</p><p>7) I would have found it very helpful to have some example of deities created with these rules. I understand Gods and Monsters will help here.</p><p>8) If I had the Pariah of Magic ability, would my own magic still work?</p><p>9) When an outsider is assumed to have a divine template by parallel due to its HD, I do not have to add the template myself - it is assumed to be already built in, correct?</p><p>10) I'll add more if/when I spot or can think of it <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> .</p><p></p><p>Finally, I really enjoyed this book and though I may find it hard to think of uses for some of it, consider it a very good buy! I especially liked some of the descriptions of the Omnific abilities (e.g. tenth sense - Give the player a copy of the adventure you are running, <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> ). I also found some of the symbolisms for the Supreme Being and Akashic Records funny (the great wall as the DM screen) and the Beyond the Beyond paragraph.</p><p></p><p>Sorry for the long post!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Slaadmaster, post: 4122219, member: 13272"] I've been in the same situation as Lord Arameth - been waiting for ages to get my hands on this (finally got the Bestiary a couple of weeks ago as well :) )! First impressions are very positive: the book looks very visually pleasing and is well-formatted (obviously will be more so with all the art). I'll post some more in depth comments later but on a quick (first) read through I have a couple of questions and mistakes (sorry) to point out (in no particular order). I'm sure some of these have already been answered on some earlier thread. 1) Firstly, what was the reason for the changing of some of the domains from the SRD versions (such as magic or death)? 2) In the Stoicism portfolio the Elder and Old One abilties both read ..... Wisdom when they both apply to Constitution; probably just a copy/paste error. 3) I found that some existing deities would be hard to create using these rules due to the lack of some portfolios or how some portfolios are opposing (what portfolios would be most likely for Helm from FR - stoicism does not seem to really fit). Likewise some of the inherent weaknesses did not make sense to me such as a penalty to Wisdom for the Moon Portfolio. However, with the customisation of these been so easy (thanks to the explanation of the mechanics) this should not be hard to rectify or change. 4) The metalworking domain does not have a granted ability - error/feature? 5) How many domains does a deity start with and/or is able to grant to worshippers - 2 or 4? And if it is 4, can they use all of the spells as spell-like abilities or just those to which he has corresponding portfolios? 5) Would you advise the use of the artifact rules for all epic characters or just immortals? 6) Would I be correct in thinking that all First Ones have a double portfolio? 7) I would have found it very helpful to have some example of deities created with these rules. I understand Gods and Monsters will help here. 8) If I had the Pariah of Magic ability, would my own magic still work? 9) When an outsider is assumed to have a divine template by parallel due to its HD, I do not have to add the template myself - it is assumed to be already built in, correct? 10) I'll add more if/when I spot or can think of it :) . Finally, I really enjoyed this book and though I may find it hard to think of uses for some of it, consider it a very good buy! I especially liked some of the descriptions of the Omnific abilities (e.g. tenth sense - Give the player a copy of the adventure you are running, :) ). I also found some of the symbolisms for the Supreme Being and Akashic Records funny (the great wall as the DM screen) and the Beyond the Beyond paragraph. Sorry for the long post! [/QUOTE]
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