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<blockquote data-quote="raleel" data-source="post: 7033951" data-attributes="member: 21664"><p>Scorching ray does more because it does no damage on a miss. Melf's does half of the first round damage. According to the DMG spell creation rules, those are actually equal. Have a 50% save in there and they are within a point. </p><p></p><p>Thunderwave does all of one point less on average and as a push. </p><p></p><p>Erupting earth, from EE, does a lower average at start, has an additional effect, and scales better than fireball, even over taking it. </p><p>Ice storm also creates secondary effects, and also scales better, though not quite enough I think to overtake fireball. </p><p></p><p>Immolation is comparable to cone of cold, at 10d6 (2 round) for an average of 35. Cone of cold, however, affects a truly stupidly large area in comparison to immolation incredibly bad ongoing + save + single target+ concentration. 5th level fireball also averages 35. </p><p></p><p>The amount of damage difference with fire is really quite insignificant. Certainly not enough to hang a "fire is resisted more" argument on.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="raleel, post: 7033951, member: 21664"] Scorching ray does more because it does no damage on a miss. Melf's does half of the first round damage. According to the DMG spell creation rules, those are actually equal. Have a 50% save in there and they are within a point. Thunderwave does all of one point less on average and as a push. Erupting earth, from EE, does a lower average at start, has an additional effect, and scales better than fireball, even over taking it. Ice storm also creates secondary effects, and also scales better, though not quite enough I think to overtake fireball. Immolation is comparable to cone of cold, at 10d6 (2 round) for an average of 35. Cone of cold, however, affects a truly stupidly large area in comparison to immolation incredibly bad ongoing + save + single target+ concentration. 5th level fireball also averages 35. The amount of damage difference with fire is really quite insignificant. Certainly not enough to hang a "fire is resisted more" argument on. [/QUOTE]
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