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<blockquote data-quote="Cheiromancer" data-source="post: 3163877" data-attributes="member: 141"><p>I suspect we need to get some guidance from the original epics; e.g. the stories of heroes like Achilles and Beowulf. And from mythology; like the stories of Hercules.</p><p></p><p>I can never remember; was Achilles dipped into the Styx by his mother, thereby acquiring invulnerability, or was he put into a divine fire where most of his mortality was burned away? But he certainly has a number of intrinsic goods above and beyond his strength and combat ability. I think his shield and possibly his sword might have been special too. Someone with a better classical education than I would know. </p><p></p><p>Beowulf pulled Grendel's arm off, which indicates pretty significant strength. But I'm thinking that certain kinds of immunities and DR would also be appropriate for intrinsic goods. </p><p></p><p>The gifts of fey or djinn or devils could also work, especially if they have flavorful restrictions. Like not working on hallowed ground, in the case of a devilish gift. Or being contingent upon following some geas or another, in the case of a fey-derived intrinsic good (or angelic good; not being used for selfish purposes, say). These could lead into very interesting role-play opportunities if success against an adversary depended on learning the weakness of their gifts.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cheiromancer, post: 3163877, member: 141"] I suspect we need to get some guidance from the original epics; e.g. the stories of heroes like Achilles and Beowulf. And from mythology; like the stories of Hercules. I can never remember; was Achilles dipped into the Styx by his mother, thereby acquiring invulnerability, or was he put into a divine fire where most of his mortality was burned away? But he certainly has a number of intrinsic goods above and beyond his strength and combat ability. I think his shield and possibly his sword might have been special too. Someone with a better classical education than I would know. Beowulf pulled Grendel's arm off, which indicates pretty significant strength. But I'm thinking that certain kinds of immunities and DR would also be appropriate for intrinsic goods. The gifts of fey or djinn or devils could also work, especially if they have flavorful restrictions. Like not working on hallowed ground, in the case of a devilish gift. Or being contingent upon following some geas or another, in the case of a fey-derived intrinsic good (or angelic good; not being used for selfish purposes, say). These could lead into very interesting role-play opportunities if success against an adversary depended on learning the weakness of their gifts. [/QUOTE]
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