FrogReaver
As long as i get to be the frog
Fixed it for you!
Is Die Hard a Christmas movie?
The Sigil
Mr. 3000 (Words per post)
I see it as similar to the arguments over whether or not "Literature X" is Evil.
In order for literature to be Evil it is not sufficient to simply "depict" Evil - since in order to warn against/castigate/denounce evil - which would be the OPPOSITE of Evil - you must also describe/depict it in some fashion. The Literature must either "advocate" (arguably) or "embody" Evil and/or its tenets/themes to be considered "Evil Literature".
Some literature depicts evil.
Some literature advocates evil. (It can be debated whether or not something that advocates for evil is itself evil.)
Some literature embodies evil (or, if you prefer, "is evil" by definition).
So let's apply this same logic to determining whether a movie (literature) is a Christmas Movie (Evil).
Die Hard depicts Christmas.
Die Hard does not advocate for Christmas or its tenets/themes ("peace on earth, good will to men").
Die Hard does not embody Christmas or its tenets/themes.
Therefore, while Die Hard is a movie that depicts Christmas, it is not a "Christmas Movie." (You could also apply this to a lot of Hallmark movies.)
(The above is not intended to convince you that you're right/wrong, it is merely the description of how I get to where I get. Your mileage may vary, particularly if you disagree with my assumptions.)
In order for literature to be Evil it is not sufficient to simply "depict" Evil - since in order to warn against/castigate/denounce evil - which would be the OPPOSITE of Evil - you must also describe/depict it in some fashion. The Literature must either "advocate" (arguably) or "embody" Evil and/or its tenets/themes to be considered "Evil Literature".
Some literature depicts evil.
Some literature advocates evil. (It can be debated whether or not something that advocates for evil is itself evil.)
Some literature embodies evil (or, if you prefer, "is evil" by definition).
So let's apply this same logic to determining whether a movie (literature) is a Christmas Movie (Evil).
Die Hard depicts Christmas.
Die Hard does not advocate for Christmas or its tenets/themes ("peace on earth, good will to men").
Die Hard does not embody Christmas or its tenets/themes.
Therefore, while Die Hard is a movie that depicts Christmas, it is not a "Christmas Movie." (You could also apply this to a lot of Hallmark movies.)
(The above is not intended to convince you that you're right/wrong, it is merely the description of how I get to where I get. Your mileage may vary, particularly if you disagree with my assumptions.)
trappedslider
Legend
you were the kid who went beyond the test answers in school weren't you?
Tonguez
A suffusion of yellow
But John McClane is literally fighting to bring Peace and Good Will to his wife and the good people in Nakatomi Tower. The movie is entirely advocating for love and reconciliation against hard odds despite what or who stands in the way.
John Walks across broken glass and puts his life on the line so the Nakatomi employees can go home - that’s heroic Goodwill to all
Zardnaar
Legend
Walks on water, walks on glass hmmnn.
Whizbang Dustyboots
Gnometown Hero
That's got a solid soundtrack, at least.
Paul Farquhar
Legend
Sure it does: conflict, strife, mayhem, corporate greed...
Ryujin
Legend
Oddly enough the greed in this one isn't of the corporate variety
Of course. Why wouldn’t outlets capitalise on the meme? It’s basic marketing 101!
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