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<blockquote data-quote="Pauper" data-source="post: 7688553" data-attributes="member: 17607"><p>So #notAllD&DGamers?</p><p></p><p>With that said, I'm not really thinking Ravenloft as a hard-cover adventure next season:</p><p></p><p>- As noted, we've already had the 'Shakespearean Giants' thing leaked, and the first three adventures have been specific as to their call-backs (Horde/Rise = Scales of War, Princes = Temple of Elemental Evil, Out of the Abyss = ?? okay, you got me on that one). I'd be shocked to see an adventure doing a call-back on the old G-series *and* Ravenloft.</p><p></p><p>- Also as noted by Perkins in his GameHoleCon keynote, the current WotC has no bones about inviting folks in to pick their brains about stories, and if they wanted to do a Ravenloft story (and do it well), there are a number of folks whose brains would likely be picked -- John W. Mangrum, Andrew Cermak, Andrew Wyatt, and other folks who were members of the Kargatane, the folks who contributed to the best of the While Wolf Ravenloft books and kept the Ravenloft torch burning online during 3rd Edition. If there has been some collaboration between those folks, everyone involved is keeping it very close to the vest, and if there hasn't, then I'm not convinced that a Ravenloft-inspired adventure would come out as great as it might have.</p><p></p><p>- Even if the first two points above are wrong and the next adventure does heavily feature a Ravenloft presence, it's not going to be a Ravenloft presence that a lot of old Ravenloft fans are likely going to appreciate. For instance, those two references in the DMG quoted by another poster suggest that the old 'Core', the cluster of domains that provided a very European flavor to the setting, is gone now, and that every domain is its own 'Island of Terror'. While I personally find this idea interesting, I can see that it would majorly irritate a lot of fans of the classic setting, since to many, the Core is to Ravenloft what the Free City is to Greyhawk or Baldur's Gate is to the Forgotten Realms.</p><p></p><p>I don't see that anything in the podcast really changes the idea of what we already suspected for the new adventure -- a romp inspired by the old G-series, featuring rummaging through old barbarian burial mounds (conveniently included in the map of the Sword Coast in the SCAG), and including a dragon who was part of the conspiracy to bring Tiamat to the Realms in Horde/Rise, who has had something of a change of heart and is "different now" (to use Perkins's phrasing in his keynote).</p><p></p><p>If there is some planar stuff, it won't be the focus of the campaign; it'll likely be just one stop on the overall story arc, which would play into the 'weekend in Hell' mode of most 2nd edition Ravenloft material.</p><p></p><p>--</p><p>Pauper</p><p></p><p>P.S.: I also seem to recall Perkins referring to Out of the Abyss as 'D&D on hard mode'; if you really want to see D&D on hard mode, find an old copy of the AD&D Ravenloft module Thoughts of Darkness. *That's* D&D on hard mode!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Pauper, post: 7688553, member: 17607"] So #notAllD&DGamers? With that said, I'm not really thinking Ravenloft as a hard-cover adventure next season: - As noted, we've already had the 'Shakespearean Giants' thing leaked, and the first three adventures have been specific as to their call-backs (Horde/Rise = Scales of War, Princes = Temple of Elemental Evil, Out of the Abyss = ?? okay, you got me on that one). I'd be shocked to see an adventure doing a call-back on the old G-series *and* Ravenloft. - Also as noted by Perkins in his GameHoleCon keynote, the current WotC has no bones about inviting folks in to pick their brains about stories, and if they wanted to do a Ravenloft story (and do it well), there are a number of folks whose brains would likely be picked -- John W. Mangrum, Andrew Cermak, Andrew Wyatt, and other folks who were members of the Kargatane, the folks who contributed to the best of the While Wolf Ravenloft books and kept the Ravenloft torch burning online during 3rd Edition. If there has been some collaboration between those folks, everyone involved is keeping it very close to the vest, and if there hasn't, then I'm not convinced that a Ravenloft-inspired adventure would come out as great as it might have. - Even if the first two points above are wrong and the next adventure does heavily feature a Ravenloft presence, it's not going to be a Ravenloft presence that a lot of old Ravenloft fans are likely going to appreciate. For instance, those two references in the DMG quoted by another poster suggest that the old 'Core', the cluster of domains that provided a very European flavor to the setting, is gone now, and that every domain is its own 'Island of Terror'. While I personally find this idea interesting, I can see that it would majorly irritate a lot of fans of the classic setting, since to many, the Core is to Ravenloft what the Free City is to Greyhawk or Baldur's Gate is to the Forgotten Realms. I don't see that anything in the podcast really changes the idea of what we already suspected for the new adventure -- a romp inspired by the old G-series, featuring rummaging through old barbarian burial mounds (conveniently included in the map of the Sword Coast in the SCAG), and including a dragon who was part of the conspiracy to bring Tiamat to the Realms in Horde/Rise, who has had something of a change of heart and is "different now" (to use Perkins's phrasing in his keynote). If there is some planar stuff, it won't be the focus of the campaign; it'll likely be just one stop on the overall story arc, which would play into the 'weekend in Hell' mode of most 2nd edition Ravenloft material. -- Pauper P.S.: I also seem to recall Perkins referring to Out of the Abyss as 'D&D on hard mode'; if you really want to see D&D on hard mode, find an old copy of the AD&D Ravenloft module Thoughts of Darkness. *That's* D&D on hard mode! [/QUOTE]
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