John Carter of Mars

[Kramodlog]

That's not trolling, that's being informed.

Telling someone to read a terrible is not trolling? Go read Twilight!

 

[Kramodlog]

That comment was clearly in response to your comment about the tropes in the movie.

Clearly not.

Those tropes exist in the literature.

You don't say.

That doesn't mean it's not a classic.

Did I say it was not a classic?

You are the only one in this thread making the "tropes = bad" determination.

So popularity means that someone is right or wrong? Amusing. To be clear, what I am saying is those tropes have been over used. They are boring, predictable.

FWIW, I have read the book.

I know, it was pretty clear.

There are a lot of sequels.

I know.

I've also read a number of books by other authors in the same vein & genre (the swords & planet pulp adventure).

Bravo. You are great are reading boring books.

It's Nellisir, not Nellsir. N.Ellis.Ir N.athan Ellis Ir.ving (Found out about fifteen years ago that it should have been Elis, not Ellis. My mother didn't know at the time.) Nell is acceptable.

You are now Nelly!

Anecdote: Nellsir reminds me of my maternal grandfather, who when asked what he wanted to be called by his grandchildren, replied "Papa, sir!" So I grew up with a Grandpa and a Papasir.

Touching.

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

Why would I want to see formulaic and clichés when I can just access the original source? Especially if elements of it have been reused in other stuff I already saw/read? What I want is different take.

The Japanese understand that. Their remakes often differ from the original source.

Was there another John Carter movie before this one?

Reading a book and watching a movie are two different forms of entertainment.

 

[Dioltach]

Was there another John Carter movie before this one?

There was, with Traci Lords and Antonio Sabato Jr. (released under the title "Princess of Mars"). I'm as fond of cheesy movies as the next guy, but I only managed to get through the first 20 minutes of this version. The lighting made it impossible for me to watch.

 

[Nellisir]

There was, with Traci Lords and Antonio Sabato Jr. (released under the title "Princess of Mars"). I'm as fond of cheesy movies as the next guy, but I only managed to get through the first 20 minutes of this version. The lighting made it impossible for me to watch.

Ah, I see. They've updated the story by making John Carter a soldier in the Middle East, and Dejah Thoras an ex-porn star who can't get away from her porn star past. And everyone rides emus and fights the spiders of Mirkwood. I cannot tell you how sad it makes me that this is unavailable to stream on Netflix.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1531911/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxvfvmWHY7w

 

[Relique du Madde]

Goldmark... John Carter's is cliche since every story from the befining of time follows that same arc. Thing about John Carter, is that back in 1909 people forgot that story arc so when erb published it, it sparked a new era of writing after it was read..

 

[Kramodlog]

And the film was released in 2012. I am amused how people hammer how much it is a classic. I do not contest this, what I am saying is that being a classic doesn't mean it is good or worth a film.