Lasting Frost

[DracoSuave]

There is a word in this feat description. This word is 'after'.

If they meant it to be simultaneous, they'd have said 'while'.

This isn't hard.

 

[yu gnomi]

You must have different edition of PHB than me. Mine does not use the word after.

I am very interested in the answer to this because I think it could also indicate whether a foe struck with Crown of Madness, by a Warlock with Psychic Lock feat gets a -2 to it's attack vs. it's buddy, or whether the -2 penalty is applied after Crown of Madness is resolved.

 

[DracoSuave]

You must have different edition of PHB than me. Mine does not use the word after.

I am very interested in the answer to this because I think it could also indicate whether a foe struck with Crown of Madness, by a Warlock with Psychic Lock feat gets a -2 to it's attack vs. it's buddy, or whether the -2 penalty is applied after Crown of Madness is resolved.

You're right, I'm a bit sleepy, so I missed that.

It'd be after, because the attack needs to resolve before additional effects are applied, unless they modify the parameters of the attack itself, or interrupt the attack.

Besides, if it were before damage, Lasting Frost would be the best feat in the game and non-frost mages would be rather foolish for not taking it.

 

[yu gnomi]

Even though it is apparently not made explicit anywhere in the rules, I agree that attacks should be completely resolved before the effects of Lasting Frost and Psychic Lock are applied. I think ths is probably how WOTC intended them to operate.