Mapping the Greenbelt

[SeaJay]

Concerning the Kingmaker campaign, volume 1: The Stolen Lands

If the characters go by the instructions given to them (on page 6), concerning mapping/exploring the Greenbelt, then they will not discover certain sites as they fall outside the 36 miles east, west requirements (map on page 14).

Is this errata?

 

[Abciximab]

Yeah, some adjustments need to be made. I guess the cartographer and the text were not in sinc.

Yeah; the charter SHOULD say they shouldn't go further than 36 miles south, west, or northwest. Basically, they should focus on the top half of the Greenbelt map. It's probably easier to fix the charter than it is to uproot and move Oleg's.

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[Shisumo]

The map was changed at some point after when the charter was written (north got rotated by one hex facing) and the editors didn't catch the implications for the charter. Most of the other direction notes I've found in the adventure are correct, but the charter itself has issues.

There are two possible options: one is to rotate the compass rose back to its original orientation, with north being straight up - that's the easiest way to fix the charter, and it also has the advantage of being more intuitive when you're looking at the map. It does run into issues when you get to other directional references, however (like the Sootscale caverns being 12 miles south of the mite tree), so you'll have to catch those as you go through.

The other option is the one I took, and it basically means rewriting the charter. My rewrite looks like this: "This exploration shall be limited to the following areas: all territory within twenty miles of Oleg’s Trading Post; and all territories west of a line directly south from Oleg’s Trading Post to the Shrike River, north of the Tuskwater and extending as far as the drainage basins of the Skunk and Thorn Rivers." With an OOC note clarifying that the headwaters of the Thorn were found on the plain north of the Narlmarches (so it includes the hex that has Location B in it), that covered the desired territory nicely. James Jacobs offered a more mathematically-specific but less flavorful (in my humble opinion ) alternative here.

 

[SeaJay]

Thanks all

Good advice

EDIT: If I move Oleg's Trading Post one hex to the left, that 'seems' to sort everything out. No?

 

[BobROE]

EDIT: If I move Oleg's Trading Post one hex to the left, that 'seems' to sort everything out. No?

Pretty close to ya, it'll be 36 miles or so in either direction (the players would probably at least get into the hex they need to anyway).

 

[Holy Bovine]

You mean people have players who would actually follow the letter of the charter as written?

Unpossible!

I never noticed this and since I'm re-writing the charter anyways to take into account the relocation to the Scarred Lands campaign setting, I will keep it in mind.

Personally I expect my players to run off the map at the first opportunity. I have some ideas for making them really want to stay on target though - not the least of which is the main point of the AP - becoming Kings & Queens!!

 

[TarionzCousin]

My group is one session away from achieving Level 4. Perhaps it's time to ask the DM to give us a copy of the charter....

 

[IronWolf]

My group is one session away from achieving Level 4. Perhaps it's time to ask the DM to give us a copy of the charter....

Heh! Never got the charter eh? Then you are there in obvious violation of my group's rule!