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<blockquote data-quote="keterys" data-source="post: 5176345" data-attributes="member: 43019"><p>It may be easier to think of it as order of operations:</p><p></p><p>PC's got a feat that gives +2 feat bonus to damage with powers that deal fire damage. </p><p></p><p>Creature has a power that allows it to convert damage that hit it, into fire damage from whatever it was before.</p><p></p><p>PC throws a Ray of Frost at the Creature, dealing 10 damage. Creature converts that into fire damage. It does not suddenly gain the +2 bonus to damage that PC gets when his powers deal fire damage.</p><p></p><p>Because his power didn't deal fire on examination or at cast, even though it eventually effectively did.</p><p></p><p>Cleric casts Cure Light Wounds, sees what applies. Hmm, some stuff doesn't, cause it's only on stuff when a healing surge is spent and the power doesn't spend a surge, so that feat doesn't apply to it. </p><p></p><p>He then tells the target 'Hey, regain hp as if you spent a surge, but don't actually spend the surge'.</p><p></p><p>Out of curiosity, if you had a splufty feat: 'When you use a healing power where the target does not spend a surge, the target regains an additional Wisdom modifier hp' would that _also_ apply to CLW, in your theory?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="keterys, post: 5176345, member: 43019"] It may be easier to think of it as order of operations: PC's got a feat that gives +2 feat bonus to damage with powers that deal fire damage. Creature has a power that allows it to convert damage that hit it, into fire damage from whatever it was before. PC throws a Ray of Frost at the Creature, dealing 10 damage. Creature converts that into fire damage. It does not suddenly gain the +2 bonus to damage that PC gets when his powers deal fire damage. Because his power didn't deal fire on examination or at cast, even though it eventually effectively did. Cleric casts Cure Light Wounds, sees what applies. Hmm, some stuff doesn't, cause it's only on stuff when a healing surge is spent and the power doesn't spend a surge, so that feat doesn't apply to it. He then tells the target 'Hey, regain hp as if you spent a surge, but don't actually spend the surge'. Out of curiosity, if you had a splufty feat: 'When you use a healing power where the target does not spend a surge, the target regains an additional Wisdom modifier hp' would that _also_ apply to CLW, in your theory? [/QUOTE]
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