FlyingChihuahua
Hero
It's called the Oath of the Ancients paladin.
Meh. And we don't need a wizard because we have the Arcane Trickster, and we don't psionics because GOO Warlorcks are telepathic.It's called the Oath of the Ancients paladin.
They claimed to not not be filling the grid? I think every square in that grid was filled except for Martial Controller.Really, though, the Warden looked rather conspicuously like one of the 'grid filling' classes they claimed not have done. Along with the Avenger and Invoker.
I'm certainly interested in alternate uses of Wildshape or Rage.
I felt the Warden was an interesting concept in that I liked the idea of warrior who could transform into something Nature or Elemental empowered. I'm a bit disappointed on why the Primeval Guardian wasn't published, it may have needed some tweaks but I felt they should have tried to make it work (even if they had to change it to a Barbarian from Ranger).
The Seeker though was a horrible idea as a base class. That's something though that could be alright as a Ranger subclass.
I don't know if it was with a straight face, but that's exactly what Mearls was talking about when he said 'we don't fill grids' - he was making excuses for the conspicuous lack of a Martial Controller, even as equally (ie slightly) unintuitive source/role combos like Divine Striker and Arcane & Primal Defenders were showing up, and the Monk was shoe-horned in as a Psionic Striker, neatly filling the psionic grid.They claimed to not not be filling the grid? I think every square in that grid was filled except for Martial Controller.
I've run for Wardens, even built some as pregens. Like Avengers & Battleminds, I don't really feel like I 'get' them, but players do seem to enjoy them.Anyway, one of the guys at my table played a warden, and I really liked the way it played.
Of course being ornery, I could see them doing something like the totem or storm barbarian where you had to chose the type of tree you turned into...
We have that with the Ranger, we even have a spell, Guardian of Nature, that grants access to hybrid forms, one plant and one beast with XGTE.
One cool thing is that it targets self so at high enough level it can be shared with a beast companion. Beast also works well with horde breaking attacks of the Hunter.
It probably would be fine for a DM to allow that spell to be added/substituted onto the Oath of the Ancients paladin (or oath bonus) spell list if a player really wanted to get the Warden feel for a character.