MindBender PrC (Complete Arcane)

[EvilMountainDew]

Has anyone played this PrC?

How did you accomplish it?
What sort of character was it?
Good vs Evil?


I just ran across this again the other day, and I absolutely love the idea behind it.

I'm statting one up this weekend, I'll share mine then.

 

[Nifft]

It's a great class!

For exactly one level. More and you'll suck.

Cheers, -- N

 

[EvilMountainDew]

But one level in you get nothing but telepathy.

What's the point in that?

I was thinking more of the route of Permanent Dominate...

 

[Haffrung Helleyes]

permanent dominate

If you want permanent Dominate, you're better off with the Leadership feat ;-)

Ken

 

[Nifft]

It really doesn't matter to me if you insist on making your PC suck.

But first, I recommend you take a look at what a plain vanilla Sorcerer / Wizard of the same level could do -- everything that a Mindbender can do, plus everything that a full caster level Sorcerer / Wizard can do. (Seriously, look at the duration on dominate person and dominate monster. You could just re-dominate your target every two weeks.) Also, look at the save DCs. The Sorcerer / Wizard can do everything earlier, more often, and with a higher DC.

Cheers, -- N

 

[Slife]

But one level in you get nothing but telepathy.

What's the point in that?

I was thinking more of the route of Permanent Dominate...

The loss in spellcasting makes the prestige class pointless after the first level. Telepathy, however, has a number of uses, and you don't lose anything for taking a single level.

Dominate *is* permanent provided you spend a single spell every couple of weeks. Is a level of casting progression worth a single spell of a level you can already cast over a few weeks? I doubt it.

 

[humble minion]

But one level in you get nothing but telepathy.

What's the point in that?

I was thinking more of the route of Permanent Dominate...

From memory, Mindbenders have two good saves, which means +2 on both Fort and Will when you take that first dip level. Add in telepathy and you've got an absolute bargain for the price of one level of familar advancement and a slightly slowed BAB progression.

Meeting the prerequisites can be annoying if you're not already somewhat focused on social skills though.

 

[rgard]

From memory, Mindbenders have two good saves, which means +2 on both Fort and Will when you take that first dip level. Add in telepathy and you've got an absolute bargain for the price of one level of familar advancement and a slightly slowed BAB progression.

Meeting the prerequisites can be annoying if you're not already somewhat focused on social skills though.

The +2 fort save helps with qualifying for other prcs. I think bluff is a class skill too so this isn't a bad 1 level dip on the way to Ur-Priest.

 

[Wycen]

We had a 3.0 mindbender in our campaign until he died from a red dragon's breath. The telepathy was useful but I don't remember anything mind blowing about the class beyond that.

 

[Aus_Snow]

Eh. . . Nifft already said it. :\

Haven't actually tried the class, but then, I woudn't want to.