New Design: Wizards...
Plane Sailing
Astral Admin - Mwahahaha!
First up, I think this is great.
Back in 1e I had a campaign were I'd ditched material components, but all wizards as part of their apprenticeship created a focus - either a staff, a wand, an amulet or a ring - which was virtually indestructible and had to be available to cast any spell with a material component. If it was lost or stolen you could only cast spells without Material components until you found it and retrieved it (you could never create a new one).
No prizes for spotting the inspiration there!
I really like this change, it seems to me that it is removing a pointless vulnerability which wizards have always had (the spellbook - which (a) doesn't fit in with almost all fantasy wizards outside of D&Dland and (b) is such a horrific vulnerability that DMs can't take advantage of it without utterly screwing the wizard over, so it doesn't ever actually get stolen or burnt up.)
The only one that stands out as a little strange to me is the Tome, because I find it more difficult to see that being used in the midst of battle.
Back in 1e I had a campaign were I'd ditched material components, but all wizards as part of their apprenticeship created a focus - either a staff, a wand, an amulet or a ring - which was virtually indestructible and had to be available to cast any spell with a material component. If it was lost or stolen you could only cast spells without Material components until you found it and retrieved it (you could never create a new one).
No prizes for spotting the inspiration there!
I really like this change, it seems to me that it is removing a pointless vulnerability which wizards have always had (the spellbook - which (a) doesn't fit in with almost all fantasy wizards outside of D&Dland and (b) is such a horrific vulnerability that DMs can't take advantage of it without utterly screwing the wizard over, so it doesn't ever actually get stolen or burnt up.)
The only one that stands out as a little strange to me is the Tome, because I find it more difficult to see that being used in the midst of battle.
Plane Sailing
Astral Admin - Mwahahaha!
One bit of the flavour text that could be problematic is this
So what happens when someone wants to multiclass into a wizard then? Do you throw away the flavour text in those circumstances, or require someone multiclassing into a wizard to go off and spend some time with an accomplished master or what?
So what happens when someone wants to multiclass into a wizard then? Do you throw away the flavour text in those circumstances, or require someone multiclassing into a wizard to go off and spend some time with an accomplished master or what?
Simia Saturnalia
First Post
My theory is that the sentence is specifically constructed that way. "They call upon arcane strikes, power words, and spells to unleash raging torrents of cold, fire, or lighting, confuse and enthrall the weak-minded, or even turn invisible or walk through walls." Arcane strikes for blasting, power words for more specifically 'control' effects, and spells for utility, perhaps?bording said:
But I definitely like this. The shape of focus objects is easy to change, or even their effects, as the Mouse suggests, and it's full of flavor.
You're a smart man, Ari.
Plane Sailing
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Don't let this thread get distracted by 'videogame' discussions, thanks.
Don't let this thread get distracted by 'videogame' discussions, thanks.
Plane Sailing said:
I would assume the same thing that has been done since 3.x multiclassing and AD&D's dualclassing. Handwave it away or say that "During the non-adventuring time, the fighter Piel has been studying the textbooks/scrolls of his wizard friend Regal" or "During the non-adventuring time, Regal has completed his training that he had started a few years earlier".
Kobold Avenger
Legend
Well it does change the wizard, I always saw the more traditional wizards carrying wands and staffs. But I already think it's just too narrow to have only those four as implements.
And I can see that the first thing out of the gate, after PHB1 would be alternate implements for wizards. Because I'd like the ideas for athames and chalices for wizard implements over some staffs and orbs.
For other wizards based on non-western cultures, I could see a juju bag or bones being used as implements, though many other things are generally the equivalent of a wand, staff, orb or tome anyways.
And I can see that the first thing out of the gate, after PHB1 would be alternate implements for wizards. Because I'd like the ideas for athames and chalices for wizard implements over some staffs and orbs.
For other wizards based on non-western cultures, I could see a juju bag or bones being used as implements, though many other things are generally the equivalent of a wand, staff, orb or tome anyways.
Li Shenron
Legend
Weird idea...
I don't dislike it, but I'd prefer much more if these orb-staff-wand-tome wizardry tools were totally optional. And I don't mean optional in the sense "can choose which one to have" but instead "can choose also to have none, and be equally effective".
I don't dislike it, but I'd prefer much more if these orb-staff-wand-tome wizardry tools were totally optional. And I don't mean optional in the sense "can choose which one to have" but instead "can choose also to have none, and be equally effective".
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