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<blockquote data-quote="MGibster" data-source="post: 8549518" data-attributes="member: 4534"><p>On the other hand, I'd be hard pressed to tell Moctezuma that Cortés and his merry band of invaders weren't warriors or soldiers. </p><p></p><p></p><p>I would agree, I think that's the distinction most people are going by. But it's a distinction that didn't exist in the original series and was a conceit that started sometime before The Wrath of Khan when Roddenberry was kind of off his rocker when it came to Star Trek. </p><ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">In "Errand of Mercy" (1968), Kirk says, "I'm a soldier, not a diplomat." </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">In "The Ultimate Computer" (1968), several Constitution class ships gather together for wargames. </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">"Errand of Mercy" (again), the Federation and Klingon fleets converge near Organia to battle one another for control of the area. i.e. Star Fleet is there to prosecute a war on behalf of the Federation. </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">In "Arena" (1967), the Enterprise is dispatched to investigate the unprovoked destruction of a Federation outpost. Kirk pursues the unknown enemy with the intention of destroying their ship. </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">In "Court Martial" (1967), Captain Kirk was tried in a military court. </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">In "A Private Little War" (1968), the Enterprise engages in a proxy war against the Klingons by arming and training natives. </li> </ol><p></p><p>Engaging in defensive actions counts as warfare. Sometime between the end of the series and 1982's <em>Wrath of Khan</em>, Roddenberry decided that Star Fleet was no longer a military organization. He had a big problem with WoK because he felt it militarized Star Fleet but because of the poor performance of the first movie he wasn't really in charge. But his idea that Star Fleet wasn't a military wormed its way into TNG.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MGibster, post: 8549518, member: 4534"] On the other hand, I'd be hard pressed to tell Moctezuma that Cortés and his merry band of invaders weren't warriors or soldiers. I would agree, I think that's the distinction most people are going by. But it's a distinction that didn't exist in the original series and was a conceit that started sometime before The Wrath of Khan when Roddenberry was kind of off his rocker when it came to Star Trek. [LIST=1] [*]In "Errand of Mercy" (1968), Kirk says, "I'm a soldier, not a diplomat." [*]In "The Ultimate Computer" (1968), several Constitution class ships gather together for wargames. [*]"Errand of Mercy" (again), the Federation and Klingon fleets converge near Organia to battle one another for control of the area. i.e. Star Fleet is there to prosecute a war on behalf of the Federation. [*]In "Arena" (1967), the Enterprise is dispatched to investigate the unprovoked destruction of a Federation outpost. Kirk pursues the unknown enemy with the intention of destroying their ship. [*]In "Court Martial" (1967), Captain Kirk was tried in a military court. [*]In "A Private Little War" (1968), the Enterprise engages in a proxy war against the Klingons by arming and training natives. [/LIST] Engaging in defensive actions counts as warfare. Sometime between the end of the series and 1982's [I]Wrath of Khan[/I], Roddenberry decided that Star Fleet was no longer a military organization. He had a big problem with WoK because he felt it militarized Star Fleet but because of the poor performance of the first movie he wasn't really in charge. But his idea that Star Fleet wasn't a military wormed its way into TNG. [/QUOTE]
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