Nobel Prize in Physics for Higgs Boson

[Umbran]

Ah. So, lie to them. That's your plan?

Bait-and-switch is not a good way to get people to be scientist, either.

There are real wonders in the world. They are cool enough without my having to lie.

 

[Nytmare]

And we wonder why we have kids who want to be rock stars instead of scienticians. /shakes head

Is your suggestion to lie to them?

[EDIT] What he said.

 

[Kramodlog]

Lie? No. Creative interpretations and not giving all the info, of course. We were all in a relationship at some point.

 

[Umbran]

Lie? No. Creative interpretations and not giving all the info, of course. We were all in a relationship at some point.

Sorry, but science is the pursuit of how things actually work. What you're talking about would be hypocrisy. I'm not into that.

Science fiction authors do a fine job of what you're suggesting, without the ethical issue because they admit that what they write is fiction. I don't need to add to that, when I can talk about real-world wonders.

 

[Kramodlog]

Hypocrisy? You sure like word inflation and are selfrighteous.

Kid: I'd like to manipulate higg's bosom to change the mass of objects. Woot!

Me: If you work hard enough, maybe you'll help make this happen one day.

Kid: Hypocrite! /hisss

 

[Umbran]

Hypocrisy? You sure like word inflation and are selfrighteous.

Apparently, we haven't warned you sufficiently: Don't make the discussion personal. Ad hominem arguments are weak sauce, rhetorically speaking, and rude to boot. If you cannot make your point stick without being personally rude, your point isn't worth making.

Kid: I'd like to manipulate higg's bosom to change the mass of objects. Woot!

Me: If you work hard enough, maybe you'll help make this happen one day.

Kid: Hypocrite! /hisss

Aside from how no kid is going to propose that, you mean? And aside from how I wasn't talking to a kid?

And aside from how setting someone up with unrealistic expectations is a great way to get them to give up when they realize they aren't possible?

And aside from how there are plenty of cool things we could talk about said kid doing that are attainable, that can also fire them up?

Yeah, aside from all the actual relevant bits, you may have a point. :/

 

[Kramodlog]

Whoa there, champ. You call me hypocrite and I get the warning?

Good day to you, sir.

 

[Umbran]

You call me hypocrite...

I said the act of knowingly misleading people about science, for purposes of getting them to study science, would be hypocritical, yes. It'd be like committing crimes to get a kid to grow up to go into law enforcement.

Have you actually mislead people about science to get them to study science? No? Then you're fine.

If you have... well, you can do better.

 

[Kramodlog]

Please. I know you have a mod badge, but I respecfully say to you to get off your high horse, thank you.

 

[Umbran]

I'm a physicist. I take my science rather seriously.

I'm sorry, but your disapproval doesn't really make me feel bad about that.