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<blockquote data-quote="daTim" data-source="post: 1251011" data-attributes="member: 1797"><p>I have never been a fan of the Bard classes that have come out of WotC in 3e or 3.5 even. Too many of their abilities are redundant. Half their spells provide morale bonus's to attack/damage, when their songs do the same thing. This is something I worked on recently trying to make a "magicless" It is still a work in process, and may have some very limited spells added back into it somehow. Anyway, here is the basic breakdown. </p><p></p><p>Bard</p><p>BAB: Same</p><p>Saves: Same</p><p>Skills: Same</p><p></p><p></p><p>1 - Bardic Music, Bardic Knowledge, Countersong, Fascinate, Inspiration +1</p><p>2 - </p><p>3 - </p><p>4 - Inspiration +2</p><p>5 - Sneak Attack +1d6</p><p>6 - Suggestion, </p><p>7 - </p><p>8 - Inspiration +3</p><p>9 - </p><p>10 - Sneak Attack +2d6</p><p>11 - </p><p>12 - Inspiration +4, Sneak Attack +4d6, Song of Freedom </p><p>13 - </p><p>14 - </p><p>15 - Sneak Attack +3d6</p><p>16 - Inspiration +5</p><p>17 - </p><p>18 - Mass Suggestion, </p><p>19 - </p><p>20 - Inspiration +6, Sneak Attack +4d6</p><p></p><p>Inspiration: This bonus may be applied several ways as listed below. Each use lasts as long as the bard sings, and 5 rounds thereafter. One person per 3 bard levels may be inspired on each song. You choose what each recepient recieves be it Competence, Courage, Heroics or Magics, when the song begins and it cannot be changed until the songs effects end. </p><p></p><p>Competence - Gain the morale listed bonus to Skill Checks</p><p></p><p>Courage - Gain the listed morale bonus to Attack, Damage and saves against fear</p><p></p><p>Heroics - Gain the listed morale bonus to Armor Class, and Saving Throws</p><p></p><p>Magics - Gain the listed morale bonus to Caster level checks, as well as the Concentration and Spellcraft skills</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>All feedback and suggestions are more than welcome!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="daTim, post: 1251011, member: 1797"] I have never been a fan of the Bard classes that have come out of WotC in 3e or 3.5 even. Too many of their abilities are redundant. Half their spells provide morale bonus's to attack/damage, when their songs do the same thing. This is something I worked on recently trying to make a "magicless" It is still a work in process, and may have some very limited spells added back into it somehow. Anyway, here is the basic breakdown. Bard BAB: Same Saves: Same Skills: Same 1 - Bardic Music, Bardic Knowledge, Countersong, Fascinate, Inspiration +1 2 - 3 - 4 - Inspiration +2 5 - Sneak Attack +1d6 6 - Suggestion, 7 - 8 - Inspiration +3 9 - 10 - Sneak Attack +2d6 11 - 12 - Inspiration +4, Sneak Attack +4d6, Song of Freedom 13 - 14 - 15 - Sneak Attack +3d6 16 - Inspiration +5 17 - 18 - Mass Suggestion, 19 - 20 - Inspiration +6, Sneak Attack +4d6 Inspiration: This bonus may be applied several ways as listed below. Each use lasts as long as the bard sings, and 5 rounds thereafter. One person per 3 bard levels may be inspired on each song. You choose what each recepient recieves be it Competence, Courage, Heroics or Magics, when the song begins and it cannot be changed until the songs effects end. Competence - Gain the morale listed bonus to Skill Checks Courage - Gain the listed morale bonus to Attack, Damage and saves against fear Heroics - Gain the listed morale bonus to Armor Class, and Saving Throws Magics - Gain the listed morale bonus to Caster level checks, as well as the Concentration and Spellcraft skills All feedback and suggestions are more than welcome! [/QUOTE]
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