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<blockquote data-quote="Zerith" data-source="post: 5461767" data-attributes="member: 99953"><p>Shields, I actually have a good reason for him not using one, a ring with Shield as a continues effect, possibly mage armor on it as well; one would come to 2,000 GP (3,500 GP if it also has mage armor) costly sure, but by no means out of reach by any noble; I’m actually shocked nobles don’t use said rings as generic items <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite12" alt="o_O" title="Er... what? o_O" loading="lazy" data-shortname="o_O" />;</p><p></p><p>as for not using armor, again, enchanted clothes, 16,150 GP for 4 AC though. :/</p><p>The odd thing; the 3,500 GP ring gives a total of 8 AC, sure you can’t stack it with the spells it is granting but they’re always on if you so wish, so that’s an extra two 1st level spells if you’re a mage. In short, with just the ring you’re talking about as much protection as full plat armor without any of the encumbrance. Alternatively you’re talking about more protection than a breast plate and a heavy shield. Could even make the ring have the armor enchantment bonus, but that is more costly than just making the cloths being enchanted.</p><p>(Additionally, mage armor does not seem to stack with normal armor, so unless the armor is breast plate +, the ring’s mage armor is as good or better, and the ring’s shield is as good as a tower shield. so if a character is going to use magic, the ring is better then armor)</p><p></p><p>As for being trained in all the martial weapons and not in armor, not rely planning on him using anything else then a rapier by in large. But he needs “all martial weapons” to be an EK. And even proficient with them, he uses none finessable weapons at -1 instead of a +2 (he has 14 Dex)</p><p></p><p>Sadly for Alexander however, him proving himself without the things granted to him by his house, means he would have to give up said ring of magical armors, and his build is to light to easily accommodate armor ^_^;</p><p>___</p><p> </p><p>Also, I would still like to know if starting off with familiars means we still have to spend the 100 GP needed in the familiar’s summoning.</p><p>___</p><p></p><p>By redundant catnips I trading for them at level one, and then when attaining them again when the character gets his first level in wizard, undoing the trade used to get them at level one to get something else.</p><p></p><p>Example:</p><p>First level; Shield Prof. for catnips</p><p>Second level; Traded for, now redundant, catnips for Combat Casting</p><p></p><p>Basically barrowing Catnips while using Combat Casting as the collateral</p><p>(and if familiars don’t need 100GP off bat I’d like to do the same with them as well.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Zerith, post: 5461767, member: 99953"] Shields, I actually have a good reason for him not using one, a ring with Shield as a continues effect, possibly mage armor on it as well; one would come to 2,000 GP (3,500 GP if it also has mage armor) costly sure, but by no means out of reach by any noble; I’m actually shocked nobles don’t use said rings as generic items O_o; as for not using armor, again, enchanted clothes, 16,150 GP for 4 AC though. :/ The odd thing; the 3,500 GP ring gives a total of 8 AC, sure you can’t stack it with the spells it is granting but they’re always on if you so wish, so that’s an extra two 1st level spells if you’re a mage. In short, with just the ring you’re talking about as much protection as full plat armor without any of the encumbrance. Alternatively you’re talking about more protection than a breast plate and a heavy shield. Could even make the ring have the armor enchantment bonus, but that is more costly than just making the cloths being enchanted. (Additionally, mage armor does not seem to stack with normal armor, so unless the armor is breast plate +, the ring’s mage armor is as good or better, and the ring’s shield is as good as a tower shield. so if a character is going to use magic, the ring is better then armor) As for being trained in all the martial weapons and not in armor, not rely planning on him using anything else then a rapier by in large. But he needs “all martial weapons” to be an EK. And even proficient with them, he uses none finessable weapons at -1 instead of a +2 (he has 14 Dex) Sadly for Alexander however, him proving himself without the things granted to him by his house, means he would have to give up said ring of magical armors, and his build is to light to easily accommodate armor ^_^; ___ Also, I would still like to know if starting off with familiars means we still have to spend the 100 GP needed in the familiar’s summoning. ___ By redundant catnips I trading for them at level one, and then when attaining them again when the character gets his first level in wizard, undoing the trade used to get them at level one to get something else. Example: First level; Shield Prof. for catnips Second level; Traded for, now redundant, catnips for Combat Casting Basically barrowing Catnips while using Combat Casting as the collateral (and if familiars don’t need 100GP off bat I’d like to do the same with them as well.) [/QUOTE]
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