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On Kickstarter There Are More Successful Projects But Creators Earning 30% Less
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<blockquote data-quote="Cergorach" data-source="post: 9255341" data-attributes="member: 725"><p>Many of those projects wouldn't stand a chance in hell if you were to publish through the traditional method. These numbers mean very little, just that consumers spend less on TTRPGs then in the previous 4 years, what a surprise... They only indicate revenue, not profit, the really important part for the folks running the KS. I also wonder how many of the smaller KS companies have increased their KS output?</p><p></p><p>I personally don't back too many RPG KS, even less now then previously. I was mostly into (miniature) boardgames and STL KS, but there I've also dialed down drastically. No more room for physical products and a huge backlog of STLs to be printed (and no room for the printed 3D products), eventually everyone runs out of space... I do occasionally back a KS, like the recent expansion for the Conan boardgame or some very interesting/special STL KS. But it's peanuts compared to what I backed previously. For the KS RPGs, fulfilment time is often quite a while, by the time the book comes out my interest might have waned. Many projects are by people that have very little KS experience, thus a risk. I have a huge back catalogue of pdfs (thanks to DTRPG, Humble Bundle, Paizo, and Bundle of Holding). It's just more cost effective and less risk to buy via other channels, especially during sales. Not spending a lot of money on KS dreams (that often disappoint) leaves me with money for when I really want something and gives me the ability to buy it now.</p><p></p><p>I'm also of the opinion that many are reinventing the wheel over and over again, having almost all physical 2e/3e/4e D&D products and a ton of D20 products gives me a large library to mine from. If I want a book on building strongholds, I can just use the old stuff in my 5e game, instead of waiting and hoping the KS product is good and comes out in a timely manner... And the prices people ask for just the pdfs are not insignificant anymore...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cergorach, post: 9255341, member: 725"] Many of those projects wouldn't stand a chance in hell if you were to publish through the traditional method. These numbers mean very little, just that consumers spend less on TTRPGs then in the previous 4 years, what a surprise... They only indicate revenue, not profit, the really important part for the folks running the KS. I also wonder how many of the smaller KS companies have increased their KS output? I personally don't back too many RPG KS, even less now then previously. I was mostly into (miniature) boardgames and STL KS, but there I've also dialed down drastically. No more room for physical products and a huge backlog of STLs to be printed (and no room for the printed 3D products), eventually everyone runs out of space... I do occasionally back a KS, like the recent expansion for the Conan boardgame or some very interesting/special STL KS. But it's peanuts compared to what I backed previously. For the KS RPGs, fulfilment time is often quite a while, by the time the book comes out my interest might have waned. Many projects are by people that have very little KS experience, thus a risk. I have a huge back catalogue of pdfs (thanks to DTRPG, Humble Bundle, Paizo, and Bundle of Holding). It's just more cost effective and less risk to buy via other channels, especially during sales. Not spending a lot of money on KS dreams (that often disappoint) leaves me with money for when I really want something and gives me the ability to buy it now. I'm also of the opinion that many are reinventing the wheel over and over again, having almost all physical 2e/3e/4e D&D products and a ton of D20 products gives me a large library to mine from. If I want a book on building strongholds, I can just use the old stuff in my 5e game, instead of waiting and hoping the KS product is good and comes out in a timely manner... And the prices people ask for just the pdfs are not insignificant anymore... [/QUOTE]
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