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<blockquote data-quote="isoChron" data-source="post: 2463330" data-attributes="member: 5927"><p>Hm. As I mentioned above you have TWO conditions a spell must meet to ignore SI or not. Where is the problem ? Why is SI suddenly worthless ? You choose the spell(s) you want to be immune to when you cast the spell. Let's say flame strike and magic missile.</p><p>Now you meet a druid and a cleric and a wizard. Is the spell worthless because you get hit from a fourth level flame strike (blocked), a fifth level flame strike (not blocked) and a assortment of magic missiles (all blocked).</p><p>If someone prepares a spell heightend he uses a higher spell slot. Now higher spell slots are more worth than lower levels because there are less of them (often) and the DC is higher (as long as you use heighten spell). If your wizard prepares a heightend 5.level magic missile there should be an effect to it. Without a DC the only effect is the chance to penetrate some defenses otherwise impenetrable (?). Otherwise the wizard could be better off to prepare feeblemind or telekinesis.</p><p></p><p>But you can use SI as you wish as long as your DM is of the same opinion. I have always seen it this way that clerics get the spell heightend to fifth level only. Because their deities don't want to grant the spell at lower power to a cleric. They get it later but they get it at +1 DC in respect to the same spell of the druid.</p><p></p><p>I see it that the 4th level spell "Spell immunity" ceases to function at a certain level of power (5th or higher). The only thing to check if SI blocks it or not is the name of the spell ("flame strike") and the power of the spell (level, not slot).</p><p></p><p>Well, every one has a point of view and our POV differs. That's not unusual and it's more or less not important because we do not game in the same group. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p>Err, and my example with the non-SR spells was a bad one. There are very few clerics that choose a spell with no SR for their Spell Immunity (granting infinte SR). <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/nervous.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":heh:" title="Nervous Laugh :heh:" data-shortname=":heh:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="isoChron, post: 2463330, member: 5927"] Hm. As I mentioned above you have TWO conditions a spell must meet to ignore SI or not. Where is the problem ? Why is SI suddenly worthless ? You choose the spell(s) you want to be immune to when you cast the spell. Let's say flame strike and magic missile. Now you meet a druid and a cleric and a wizard. Is the spell worthless because you get hit from a fourth level flame strike (blocked), a fifth level flame strike (not blocked) and a assortment of magic missiles (all blocked). If someone prepares a spell heightend he uses a higher spell slot. Now higher spell slots are more worth than lower levels because there are less of them (often) and the DC is higher (as long as you use heighten spell). If your wizard prepares a heightend 5.level magic missile there should be an effect to it. Without a DC the only effect is the chance to penetrate some defenses otherwise impenetrable (?). Otherwise the wizard could be better off to prepare feeblemind or telekinesis. But you can use SI as you wish as long as your DM is of the same opinion. I have always seen it this way that clerics get the spell heightend to fifth level only. Because their deities don't want to grant the spell at lower power to a cleric. They get it later but they get it at +1 DC in respect to the same spell of the druid. I see it that the 4th level spell "Spell immunity" ceases to function at a certain level of power (5th or higher). The only thing to check if SI blocks it or not is the name of the spell ("flame strike") and the power of the spell (level, not slot). Well, every one has a point of view and our POV differs. That's not unusual and it's more or less not important because we do not game in the same group. :D Err, and my example with the non-SR spells was a bad one. There are very few clerics that choose a spell with no SR for their Spell Immunity (granting infinte SR). :heh: [/QUOTE]
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