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<blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 6089818" data-attributes="member: 57383"><p>I apologize if that came off strongly, I wasn't intending to cast any aspersions. It's just I have a limited amount of time to play around on the internet at the moment.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The problem with that argument is that the Epic Feat I referred to specifically describes one sort of fast healing as not stacking with other sorts of fast healing while it can stack with more fast healing of the same sort, so in at least some respects it can 'stack'.</p><p></p><p>Although, there are some cases where multiple applications of the same type of healing do not stack - if two doctors use Heal checks to give a character Long-Term Care the patient doesn't heal three times faster instead of the two-times faster normal for Long-Term Care do they? I don't think so, just like a patient can only receive one application of <strong><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/epic/skills.htm#quickenRecovery" target="_blank">Quicken Recovery</a></strong> and <strong><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/epic/skills.htm#perfectRecovery" target="_blank">Perfect Recovery</a></strong> a day.</p><p></p><p>The rules are not always 100% clear as to how fast healing stacks. If two effects "gives a creature creature fast healing X", does the creature end up with fast healing 2X or fast healing X?</p><p></p><p>My gut tells me that unless an effect explicitly says so either in the power writeup (e.g. "gives a creature fast healing X, or increases existing fast healing by X") or the RAW then I'd go with the more conservative option.</p><p></p><p>Basically, I'd go for whichever interpretation is the least open to exploitation. If the vivacious creature's Positive Energy Aura does stack, then sure as eggs as eggs some gamer somewhere is going to want a flock of hundreds of Fine-sized incorporeal vivacious creatures at their beck and call to give themselves free unlimited healing while making their enemies explode from excess positive energy.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Sure, the "positive-dominant environment" mentioned in the Positive Energy Aura description is a reference to the rules on planes (e.g. "<strong><a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/planes.htm#positiveDominant" target="_blank">Positive-Dominant</a></strong>" in the Elemental and Energy Traits). The Positive Energy Plane - e.g. an entire dimension made of nothing but positive energy - has a major positive-dominant trait, so it confers fast healing 5 on all beings within it. A minor-dominant plane confers fast healing 2.</p><p></p><p>A vivacious creature's Positive Energy Aura SQ confers the equivalent of a "fast healing 1" positive energy trait. I'd rather that a group of them doesn't generate an aura that heals faster than the plane their power originates from.</p><p></p><p>That reminds me, Vivacious Creatures are from the Positive Energy Plane aren't they? I'll just check...</p><p></p><p>...yup, Vivacious Creature is a template in the <em>Planar Handbook</em>, which says they "dwell on the Positive Energy Plane".</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cleon, post: 6089818, member: 57383"] I apologize if that came off strongly, I wasn't intending to cast any aspersions. It's just I have a limited amount of time to play around on the internet at the moment. The problem with that argument is that the Epic Feat I referred to specifically describes one sort of fast healing as not stacking with other sorts of fast healing while it can stack with more fast healing of the same sort, so in at least some respects it can 'stack'. Although, there are some cases where multiple applications of the same type of healing do not stack - if two doctors use Heal checks to give a character Long-Term Care the patient doesn't heal three times faster instead of the two-times faster normal for Long-Term Care do they? I don't think so, just like a patient can only receive one application of [B][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/epic/skills.htm#quickenRecovery"]Quicken Recovery[/URL][/B] and [B][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/epic/skills.htm#perfectRecovery"]Perfect Recovery[/URL][/B] a day. The rules are not always 100% clear as to how fast healing stacks. If two effects "gives a creature creature fast healing X", does the creature end up with fast healing 2X or fast healing X? My gut tells me that unless an effect explicitly says so either in the power writeup (e.g. "gives a creature fast healing X, or increases existing fast healing by X") or the RAW then I'd go with the more conservative option. Basically, I'd go for whichever interpretation is the least open to exploitation. If the vivacious creature's Positive Energy Aura does stack, then sure as eggs as eggs some gamer somewhere is going to want a flock of hundreds of Fine-sized incorporeal vivacious creatures at their beck and call to give themselves free unlimited healing while making their enemies explode from excess positive energy. Sure, the "positive-dominant environment" mentioned in the Positive Energy Aura description is a reference to the rules on planes (e.g. "[B][URL="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/planes.htm#positiveDominant"]Positive-Dominant[/URL][/B]" in the Elemental and Energy Traits). The Positive Energy Plane - e.g. an entire dimension made of nothing but positive energy - has a major positive-dominant trait, so it confers fast healing 5 on all beings within it. A minor-dominant plane confers fast healing 2. A vivacious creature's Positive Energy Aura SQ confers the equivalent of a "fast healing 1" positive energy trait. I'd rather that a group of them doesn't generate an aura that heals faster than the plane their power originates from. That reminds me, Vivacious Creatures are from the Positive Energy Plane aren't they? I'll just check... ...yup, Vivacious Creature is a template in the [I]Planar Handbook[/I], which says they "dwell on the Positive Energy Plane". [/QUOTE]
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